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A problem i noted- the first phrase of the text uses the word \\\"unstated\\\" and the following paragraph uses \\\" even if this is never made explicit in the narrative.\\\" turning the \\\"unstated\\\" part more obvious. Despite this, all the examples are about stated things that are equal/not equal to real life- similar to the existence of \\\"superheroes, vampires, aliens, or a fictional President of the United States.\\\" or \\\"completely fantastic settings that have their own fictional history, geography, and culture\\\", as noted in the own description.
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A problem i noted- the first phrase of the text uses the word \\\"unstated\\\" and the following paragraph uses \\\" even if this is never made explicit in the narrative.\\\" turning the \\\"unstated\\\" part more obvious. Despite this, all the examples are about stated things that are equal/not equal to real life- not really different than the existence of \\\"superheroes, vampires, aliens, or a fictional President of the United States.\\\" or \\\"completely fantastic settings that have their own fictional history, geography, and culture\\\"
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A problem i noted- the first phrase of the text uses the word \\\"unstated\\\" and the following paragraph uses \\\" even if this is never made explicit in the narrative.\\\" turning the \\\"unstated\\\" part more obvious. Despite this, all the examples are about stated things that are equal to real life- not really different than the existence of \\\"superheroes, vampires, aliens, or a fictional President of the United States.\\\" or \\\"completely fantastic settings that have their own fictional history, geography, and culture\\\"
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help but there was too much chaos and no Blight to induce people to take any interest. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip, not a freaking literal statement of fact. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip, not a freaking literal statement of fact. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip, not a freaking literal statement of fact. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip, not a freaking literal statement of fact. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
I found no sign at all of rebelling Wardens being executed by Clarel. She wanted to have the Dissenter, whoever he is, imprisoned or killed because he\\\'s running around telling people \\\"the Wardens are using blood magic!\\\" The ones you encounter and read notes from (Storm Coast, Crestwood) are totally reasonable, by all appearances unhappy to be chasing one of their own but doing their duty regardless.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the quest line might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Dangerous mind-altering blood magic with horrible drawbacks is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders and a massive swamp along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Orlais. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Ferelden, more than \\\'\\\'all\\\'\\\' the territory the Orlesians Wardens patrolled combined. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\' (Same with Hawke and Varric, by the way, so it\\\'s \\\"blindness\\\" shared by all.)
Weisshaupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north-west of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders along with loads and loads and loads of distance, more than the whole of Ferelden, more than \\\'\\\'all\\\'\\\' the territory the Orlesians Wardens patrolled combined. Twice, including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain and couldn\\\'t take part in defeating the Fifth Blight. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce the throne by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \'\'Before\'\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \
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Right, I replayed the whole mission sequence. This is the timeline. \\\'\\\'Before\\\'\\\' the Conclave, the Wardens began to hear the Calling all at once. An order was issued for them to withdraw, wherever they happened to be. They began searching desperately for help. Erimond turned up (his words are that he went to them, \\\"full of sympathy\\\") and convinced Clarel and apparently most of the other Wardens that his ritual would allow them to end the Blights.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\'
Weisshupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders along with loads and loads and loads of distance. Twice including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce them by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
At some point, a small group of Wardens attended the Conclave to aid Corypheus, completely under his control, without anyone\\\'s knowledge except his. They died in the opening of the Breach. The Inquisition forms. The Wardens, by that point, are already long disappeared and nobody\\\'s noticed. Some went to perform the ritual as a test, and they returned with the demons under their control, but quiet and distant. Considering they\\\'ve had to massacre their own, it is logical. Clarel can\\\'t find solid reason or evidence that Erimond is screwing them. He couldn\\\'t control a demon army anyway, and there\\\'s surely nobody controlling the Wardens. Who could? Clarel had \\\'\\\'no idea\\\'\\\' Corypheus wasn\\\'t dead until \\\'\\\'the Inquisitor said his name.\\\'\\\'
Weisshupt is way the hell off in the Anderfels, north of the Tevinter Imperium - getting there with a message would mean crossing two mountain ranges and two contested borders along with loads and loads and loads of distance. Twice including the return message. Add to all this that Clarel was the Warden Cailan contacted to bring her people to Ostagar, but was barred from the country by Loghain. Alistair\\\'s an ex-Templar (and not an true heir, plus as a Warden his old blood ties are worthless, \\\'\\\'plus\\\'\\\' he would have been made to renounce them by Anora). Loghain\\\'s a pariah even among the Wardens. Stroud, while an excellent warrior, isn\\\'t of rank; he hears the Calling and says it\\\'s very heavy in his thoughts. And blood magic is not a problem to the Wardens. Untested, dangerous magic is basically the whole damn Joining, which regularly kills recruits. They do not value their lives the way Fiona values those of her mages.
Erimond was making an insulting quip. He\\\'s also only transparently evil when he\\\'s talking to the Inquisitor; speaking to Clarel, he\\\'s much more respectful up until \\\'\\\'he decides his plan won\\\'t work.\\\'\\\' While Erimond makes that goofy \\\"hands up, hands down\\\" display for your benefit, remember he\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' the one actually controlling them - that\\\'s the Nightmare. You then kill the Wardens, and he can run off back to Adamant and claim he was attacked by Chantry forces who saw blood magic. Which is not untrue. Especially since you then lay siege to Adamant, and Clarel has zero reason to trust the Inquisitor.
It is plain \\\'\\\'to us\\\'\\\', because we are the audience. The original example is a whole freaking paragraph of nitpicking and reaching where I thought \\\'\\\'\\\"clear, concise, witty\\\"\\\'\\\' was the standard. And I think some vaguery is necessary considering the different ways the confrontation might play out.
