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Well mfarah ignored the request and added the examples back in. Hollering for the mods now, let\'s avoid turning this into an edit war in the meantime.
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Well mfarah ignored the request and added the examples back in. Hollering for the mods now, let\\\'s avoid turning this into an edit war in the meantime. They also added the following two examples:
** Whoever thought of the whole wall climbing frontal attack. Seriously, unless the battle is already won these climbers are going to die when they come near the top. Exhausted and with no way to defend themselves and with no support from below (even giant archers are hardly precise enough to pick off defenders and not climbers, and if they are then again, WHY use climbers?) they are dead meat even without the scythe.
** Another issue: These climbers could have climbed the wall earlier in another spot and then either flanked the defenders (approaching on sides at top of the wall) or joined up with the Thenn assault. Letting them try a frontal attack is murder.
Countering in order:
* The whole point of the exercise was to test the defenders, which means throwing a lot at them at once and see how they handle it. The climbers were there to test the defences up top and see if that was the weak spot. Yes, they would be at a disadvantage if they got up there and had to fight right afterwards, but you wouldn\\\'t know that unless you tried it.
* See above (and \\\"Another Point\\\" is WordCruft and contributing to ForumTalk), but Mance Raider doesn\\\'t know for certain how many men are at the top of the wall; Jon told him there were thousands manning the wall so from a planning perspective if you\\\'re going to test the defences you test them at their strongest point and observe. And in that regards the plan worked perfectly; by deploying the Scythe Mance now knows for certain that there are so few men up on top of the wall that they would resort to deploying the scythe rather than just letting them get to the top and overwhelming them.
** Whoever thought of the whole wall climbing frontal attack. Seriously, unless the battle is already won these climbers are going to die when they come near the top. Exhausted and with no way to defend themselves and with no support from below (even giant archers are hardly precise enough to pick off defenders and not climbers, and if they are then again, WHY use climbers?) they are dead meat even without the scythe.
** Another issue: These climbers could have climbed the wall earlier in another spot and then either flanked the defenders (approaching on sides at top of the wall) or joined up with the Thenn assault. Letting them try a frontal attack is murder.
Countering in order:
* The whole point of the exercise was to test the defenders, which means throwing a lot at them at once and see how they handle it. The climbers were there to test the defences up top and see if that was the weak spot. Yes, they would be at a disadvantage if they got up there and had to fight right afterwards, but you wouldn\\\'t know that unless you tried it.
* See above (and \\\"Another Point\\\" is WordCruft and contributing to ForumTalk), but Mance Raider doesn\\\'t know for certain how many men are at the top of the wall; Jon told him there were thousands manning the wall so from a planning perspective if you\\\'re going to test the defences you test them at their strongest point and observe. And in that regards the plan worked perfectly; by deploying the Scythe Mance now knows for certain that there are so few men up on top of the wall that they would resort to deploying the scythe rather than just letting them get to the top and overwhelming them.
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Well someone ignored the request and added the examples back in. Hollering for the mods now.
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Well mfarah ignored the request and added the examples back in. Hollering for the mods now, let\\\'s avoid turning this into an edit war in the meantime.
