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Believe it or not, I \'\'do\'\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\'t originally come from! It\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \
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Believe it or not, I \\\'\\\'do\\\'\\\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\\\'t originally come from! It\\\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \\\"Matsuoka\\\" immigrated to a different country, and over the generations the pronunciation of the name changed. See, oh, any of the \\\'\\\'millions\\\'\\\' of immigrants who passed through Ellis and Angel Islands in US history, just to name \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' possibility!
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a \\\'\\\'Manticoran\\\'\\\' character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
ETA: I\\\'m sorry for tearing a strip off you. I stand behind everything I said -- and behind how angry your attitude made me -- but the way I said it was wrong.
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a \\\'\\\'Manticoran\\\'\\\' character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
ETA: I\\\'m sorry for tearing a strip off you. I stand behind everything I said -- and behind how angry your attitude made me -- but the way I said it was wrong.
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Believe it or not, I \'\'do\'\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\'t originally come from! It\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \
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Believe it or not, I \\\'\\\'do\\\'\\\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\\\'t originally come from! It\\\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \\\"Matsuoka\\\" immigrated to a different country, and over the generations the pronunciation of the name changed. See, oh, any of the \\\'\\\'millions\\\'\\\' of immigrants who passed through Ellis and Angel Islands in US history, just to name \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' possibility!
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a \\\'\\\'Manticoran\\\'\\\' character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a \\\'\\\'Manticoran\\\'\\\' character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
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Believe it or not, I \'\'do\'\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\'t originally come from! It\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \
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Believe it or not, I \\\'\\\'do\\\'\\\' know how Japanese names work. I also know that surnames can wind up belonging to a culture they didn\\\'t originally come from! It\\\'s entirely possible someone with the surname \\\"Matsuoka\\\" immigrated to a different country, and over the generations the pronunciation of the name changed. See, oh, any of the \\\'\\\'millions\\\'\\\' of immigrants who passed through Ellis and Angel Islands in US history, just to name \\\'\\\'one\\\'\\\' possibility!
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
It\\\'s also possible that, as 3of4 said, the given name became a surname over time - which, guess what, has \\\'\\\'also\\\'\\\' happened multiple times!
Estelle Matsuko is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' a Japanese character. She is a character whose surname happens to originate from Japanese. I think you\\\'ve missed this critical point rather badly.
I never said \\\"Matsuko\\\" could never exist as a given name. I said that my parents, who lived in Japan for two years, had never heard of it.
The point is that, for a character two thousand years in the future, \\\"Matsuko\\\" is perfectly viable as a surname, and is absolutely not flagrant misuse of the language, which is what AsLongAsItSoundsForeign \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\'.
I didn\\\'t need your permission, by the way. I brought it to discussion to explain why the trope was wrong and to give others a chance to weigh in.
And I suggest you watch your lecturing attitude. You\\\'ve been nothing but rude through this whole discussion.
