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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[AntiVillain Time Traveller who became a Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned his past self into a hero]]]]
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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[AntiVillain Time Traveller who became a Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned his past self into a savior of the world]]]]
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* Portfolio: [[{{ShockAndAwe}} Utilizes lightning]] [[{{LightningCanDoAnything}} as a weapon]] and [[{{FlashStep}} can even teleport.]] [[spoiler:[[{{TimeTravel}} He also figured out how to time travel.]]]] [[{{GeniusBruiser}} This genius grandpa]] [[{{BadassGrandpa}} can crush you]] [[{{Chessmaster}} and has been]] [[{{ManipulativeBastard}} manipulating everyone and]] [[{{BatmanGambit}} predicting the hero\'s moves.]] [[spoiler:[[{{TheChosenOne}} That\'s just so he can ensure you become a hero]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} that would save the world from a world destroyer]] [[{{Cryforthedevil}} that destroyed his timeline.]]]]
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* Portfolio: ShockAndAwe, LightningCanDoAnything, FlashStep [[spoiler:[[{{TimeTravel}} He also figured out how to time travel.]]]] GeniusBruiser, BadassGrandpa, Chessmaster, ManipulativeBastard, BatmanGambit. [[spoiler:[[{{TheChosenOne}} That\\\'s just so he can ensure you become a hero]] [[{{WellIntentionedExtremist}} that would save the world from a world destroyer]] [[{{Cryforthedevil}} that destroyed his timeline.]]]]
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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[BatmanGambit Time Traveller Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned himself into a hero]]]]
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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[AntiVillain Time Traveller who became a Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned his past self into a hero]]]]
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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[Anti-Villain Time Traveller Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned himself into a hero]]]]
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* Kessler, God of [[spoiler:[[BatmanGambit travelling back in time and putting your past self in hell to turn him into a superhero/villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} so that he can fight off a world destroyer you failed to destroy]]]]
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* Kessler, [[spoiler:[[BatmanGambit Time Traveller Villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} who turned himself into a hero]]]]
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If you insist to the \\\"sneaking it in\\\" part -which is not in the current description- at least the blood drenched tunic still counts, because it was shown so briefly, that it borders on FreezeFrameBonus.
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If you insist to the \\\"sneaking it in\\\" part -which is not in the current description- at least the blood drenched tunic was shown so briefly, that it borders on FreezeFrameBonus.
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The problem with this argument is that, this example is not about the murder itself, but about it\'s brutality. Yes, TCW was always obvious about killing, even I admitted it. But it was always BloodlessCarnage, to keep it as toned down as possible. In fact from the same arc, the decapitated corpses of the Black Sun leaders and Vizsla\'s head were cut for this very reason. So the show did have a radar. It put the bar higher than for most shows, but it was there. So anything of similar brutality to those scenes that were left in can be considered getting crap past it.\\\\
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The problem with this argument is that, this example is not about the murder itself, but about it\\\'s brutality. Yes, TCW was always obvious about killing, even I admitted it. But it was always BloodlessCarnage, to keep it as toned down as possible. In fact from the same arc, the decapitated corpses of the Black Sun leaders and Vizsla\\\'s head were cut for this very reason. So the show did have a radar. It put the bar higher than for most shows, but it was there. So anything of similar brutality to those scenes, that were left in can be considered getting crap past it.\\\\\\\\
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If you insist to the \\\"sneaking it in\\\" part -which is not in the current description- even if Savage\\\'s severed arm not, but the blood drenched tunic was shown so briefly, that it borders on FreezeFrameBonus.
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If you insist to \
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If you insist to the \\\"sneaking it in\\\" part -which is not in the current description- even if Savage\\\'s severed arm not, but the blood drenched tunic was shown so briefly, that it borders on FreezeFrameBonus.
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Darn, editted so much because I kept missing spoilers
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* From Cole’s point of view, after being tricked into becoming a terrorist of Empire City, being forced to try and reclaim or rebuild the city, [[spoiler: being forced to let his girlfriend die and have his best friend back stab him, he just wanted to kill Kessler. And after finally beating him,]] [[spoiler: Kessler’s revelation was more than enough to change his rank to anti-villain and.]] That got him a position in the Pantheon
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* From Cole’s point of view, after being tricked into becoming a terrorist of Empire City, being forced to try and reclaim or rebuild the city, [[spoiler: being forced to let his girlfriend die and have his best friend back stab him, he just wanted to kill Kessler. And after finally beating him, Kessler’s revelation was more than enough to change his rank to anti-villain and.]] That got him a position in the Pantheon
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* From Cole’s point of view, after being tricked into becoming a terrorist of Empire City, being forced to try and reclaim or rebuild the city, being forced to let his girlfriend die and have his best friend back stab him, he just wanted to kill Kessler. And after finally beating him, [[spoiler: Kessler’s revelation was more than enough to change his rank to anti-villain and.]] That got him a position in the Pantheon
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* From Cole’s point of view, after being tricked into becoming a terrorist of Empire City, being forced to try and reclaim or rebuild the city, [[spoiler: being forced to let his girlfriend die and have his best friend back stab him, he just wanted to kill Kessler. And after finally beating him,]] [[spoiler: Kessler’s revelation was more than enough to change his rank to anti-villain and.]] That got him a position in the Pantheon
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* Recently he has been suggesting Cole to be given a spot on the Pantheon, but was denied as Cole wasn\'t strong or significant enough. Now Kessler has subjected both versions of Cole into another training session to land them a spot[[spoiler: in case the Beast arrives]]
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* Recently he has been suggesting Cole to be given a spot on the Pantheon, but was denied as Cole wasn\\\'t strong or significant enough. Now Kessler has subjected both versions of Cole into another training session to land them a spot[[spoiler: in case the Beast ever arrives in the Pantheon]]
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Has there yet been a god for someone who time travelled to the past and trained his past self? Because if there isn\'t, well...
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Has there yet been a god for someone who time travelled to the past and trained his past self? Because if there isn\\\'t, well... here might be a nice addition to the house of time and space
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* Kessler, God of [[spoiler:[[BatmanGambit travelling back in time and putting your past self in hell to turn him into a superhero]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} so that he can fight off a world destroyer you failed to destroy]]]]
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* Kessler, God of [[spoiler:[[BatmanGambit travelling back in time and putting your past self in hell to turn him into a superhero/villain]] [[{{Theendoftheworldasweknowit}} so that he can fight off a world destroyer you failed to destroy]]]]
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