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From what I understand, the thing about Hange being only brought up in that interview, is that it was not a question about characters with gender neutral pronouns. It was about the original interviewer having ViewerGenderConfusion on Hange based on the earlier artwork from the manga. The interviewer thought Hange looked \
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From what I understand, the thing about Hange being only brought up in that interview, is that it was not a question about characters with gender neutral pronouns. It was about the original interviewer having ViewerGenderConfusion on Hange based on the earlier artwork from the manga. The interviewer thought Hange looked \\\"manly\\\". By manly, I\\\'m guessing the interviewer either meant that Hange looked cool or looked like a man. Despite this though, the interviewer did say that they thought Hange looked like a girl. By that analysis, I guessing the interviewer was asking for confirmation for just this particular character. The author in response stated that since this question is being asked this particular way, he\\\'s just not going answer.
From this interview, people apparently misinterpreted it meaning that Hange is outside the normal gender binary. To justify this, they stated that since Hange is constantly being referred to with gender neutral pronouns, the interview must be true. The problem with this that they are apparently only taking note of the use of said pronouns directed at Hange. They are apparently only reading and listening to the pronouns directed at her. They are apparently not taking note that these pronouns are also being used for Pixis and other characters. Selective blindness or something like that. This is what the person arguing about why Pixis or other characters that are referred to with gender neutral pronouns aren\\\'t being made fussed about is talking about from what I understand.
It should also be noted that the original interview was an old one. Since then, while the author has not written in a manga panel or stated in an interview outright that Hange is a female, he has given all sorts of gender identifying flags that point to her being female. There is the [[http://media.tumblr.com/bd2dddec278a4d929d081df3e72de766/tumblr_inline_mntfgxLkZ01qjlei8.jpg joke preview]] wherein Hange is in a skirt and called a girl, her first name being Zoe, her appearance in alternate high school universe spinoff that the author apparently made, and his art being more refined in later chapters. The anime is even giving more gender identifying flags. While I guess it can be argued that all this flags don\\\'t mean anything, it has to be noted that apparently for the Japanese, these flags define a character\\\'s gender and not the use of pronouns or outright statements to a degree. It has also has to be noted that applying real world gender issues in a fictional story might complicate things. At least western gender views might complicate matters.
I guess some of the fanart can be attributed to RuleSixtyThree, however for those fanart that were made based on the interview, I could guess that the creators were partially a bit too overzealous or something like that. Of course FanDumb though can creep into fanart as any other fanon facet. I mean there are fanart that bash one FanPreferredCouple over another which in itself could be seen as FanDumb depending on the degree, so yeah. Though I\\\'m basing my description of calling them overzealous based on what they did here and how it bothered fellow troper harostar.
As for the author\\\'s response being a joke. It most likely was a joke given his reputation as a TrollingCreator. From I\\\'ve read and remember, he appeared on tv all dressed in a Titan costume yet all he did was spout nonsensical gibberish unrelated to his manga.
Nanaba has indeed never been given focus due to various reasons, however her(?) situation is probably more of a better example than Hange due to not having as many gender identifying flags as Hange. I mean a character who acts and looks more ambiguous is more likely to be interpreted as being outside the gender binary than one who acts and looks less ambiguous.
While it\\\'s not that out of a stretch that a character who doesn\\\'t conform to the normal gender binary should exist alongside gay characters, that\\\'s almost a bit offensive in another light I guess. People labeled under LGBT are all grouped together as such because they are outside the binary sexuality and gender norms. However, they are not all the same. Lesbians are not necessarily equal to Gay guys and vice versa, Bisexuals are not necessarily equal to those two, and TransEqualsGay is not always the case.
Likewise, the existence of one or more LGBT issue in a work doesn\\\'t necessarily mean all issues can and should exist. I mean like in most YuriGenre manga, the YaoiGenre doesn\\\'t exist in them and vice versa. MassEffect as better example, caters to people who want Shepard to be a Lesbian, to be a Gay guy, or be Bisexual but it doesn\\\'t cater to those who may want Shepard to a transgender character. Sure, the player can technically fill that role in a sense, but there isn\\\'t a option that allows people to change Shepard\\\'s gender midgame to reflect a transgender person.
Or something like that.
For renaming the section, I really don\\\'t know of any YMMV trope that fits the description that these fans expressed other than what is written in FanDumb.
Umm... Kodansha\\\'s the manga publisher, not the animation studio producing the anime. From what I\\\'ve gathered Kodansha is more involved with what the author says making them just as good as WordOfGod.
For the animation studio itself. While there have been some anime that have changed the gender of a character for various reasons like FruitsBasket, I don\\\'t think it\\\'s the case here. Apart from lipstick-like shine on females, the anime\\\'s so far been faithful to the manga in terms of gender.
From this interview, people apparently misinterpreted it meaning that Hange is outside the normal gender binary. To justify this, they stated that since Hange is constantly being referred to with gender neutral pronouns, the interview must be true. The problem with this that they are apparently only taking note of the use of said pronouns directed at Hange. They are apparently only reading and listening to the pronouns directed at her. They are apparently not taking note that these pronouns are also being used for Pixis and other characters. Selective blindness or something like that. This is what the person arguing about why Pixis or other characters that are referred to with gender neutral pronouns aren\\\'t being made fussed about is talking about from what I understand.
It should also be noted that the original interview was an old one. Since then, while the author has not written in a manga panel or stated in an interview outright that Hange is a female, he has given all sorts of gender identifying flags that point to her being female. There is the [[http://media.tumblr.com/bd2dddec278a4d929d081df3e72de766/tumblr_inline_mntfgxLkZ01qjlei8.jpg joke preview]] wherein Hange is in a skirt and called a girl, her first name being Zoe, her appearance in alternate high school universe spinoff that the author apparently made, and his art being more refined in later chapters. The anime is even giving more gender identifying flags. While I guess it can be argued that all this flags don\\\'t mean anything, it has to be noted that apparently for the Japanese, these flags define a character\\\'s gender and not the use of pronouns or outright statements to a degree. It has also has to be noted that applying real world gender issues in a fictional story might complicate things. At least western gender views might complicate matters.
I guess some of the fanart can be attributed to RuleSixtyThree, however for those fanart that were made based on the interview, I could guess that the creators were partially a bit too overzealous or something like that. Of course FanDumb though can creep into fanart as any other fanon facet. I mean there are fanart that bash one FanPreferredCouple over another which in itself could be seen as FanDumb depending on the degree, so yeah. Though I\\\'m basing my description of calling them overzealous based on what they did here and how it bothered fellow troper harostar.
As for the author\\\'s response being a joke. It most likely was a joke given his reputation as a TrollingCreator. From I\\\'ve read and remember, he appeared on tv all dressed in a Titan costume yet all he did was spout nonsensical gibberish unrelated to his manga.
Nanaba has indeed never been given focus due to various reasons, however her(?) situation is probably more of a better example than Hange due to not having as many gender identifying flags as Hange. I mean a character who acts and looks more ambiguous is more likely to be interpreted as being outside the gender binary than one who acts and looks less ambiguous.
While it\\\'s not that out of a stretch that a character who doesn\\\'t conform to the normal gender binary should exist alongside gay characters, that\\\'s almost a bit offensive in another light I guess. People labeled under LGBT are all grouped together as such because they are outside the binary sexuality and gender norms. However, they are not all the same. Lesbians are not necessarily equal to Gay guys and vice versa, Bisexuals are not necessarily equal to those two, and TransEqualsGay is not always the case.
Likewise, the existence of one or more LGBT issue in a work doesn\\\'t necessarily mean all issues can and should exist. I mean like in most YuriGenre manga, the YaoiGenre doesn\\\'t exist in them and vice versa. MassEffect as better example, caters to people who want Shepard to be a Lesbian, to be a Gay guy, or be Bisexual but it doesn\\\'t cater to those who may want Shepard to a transgender character. Sure, the player can technically fill that role in a sense, but there isn\\\'t a option that allows people to change Shepard\\\'s gender midgame to reflect a transgender person.
Or something like that.
For renaming the section, I really don\\\'t know of any YMMV trope that fits the description that these fans expressed other than what is written in FanDumb.
Umm... Kodansha\\\'s the manga publisher, not the animation studio producing the anime. From what I\\\'ve gathered Kodansha is more involved with what the author says making them just as good as WordOfGod.
For the animation studio itself. While there have been some anime that have changed the gender of a character for various reasons like FruitsBasket, I don\\\'t think it\\\'s the case here. Apart from lipstick-like shine on females, the anime\\\'s so far been faithful to the manga in terms of gender.
