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WesternAnimation/{{Doug}} seemed to be a decent example, but I\'d like to remind people that the woobie is a \'\'character\'\' trope, not a \'\'situation\'\' trope. People are not \
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WesternAnimation/{{Doug}} seemed to be a decent example, but I\\\'d like to remind people that the woobie is a \\\'\\\'character\\\'\\\' trope, not a \\\'\\\'situation\\\'\\\' trope. People are not \\\"the woobie in one episode.\\\" The robot is a ZeroContextExample. Also I question the wisdom of having a lengthy paragraph describing all the bad things that happened in one episode. Doug may well deserve a longer entry, but as it stands now, it should be expanded differently.
** [[spoiler: Nazz]] in \\\'\\\'The Big Picture Show\\\'\\\' after [[spoiler: having the worst hair day ever from one of the Eds\\\' scams.]]
** Rolf in \\\'\\\'Wish You Were Ed\\\'\\\'. He wanted to go back home so bad...
** May Kanker in the Valentine\\\'s special...
** Jonny has shades of this in \\\"Dear Ed\\\" when he and Plank aren\\\'t friends and he misses plank.
** Sarah, of all people was a woobie in the episode \\\"For Your Ed Only\\\" when she finds her room destroyed and she\\\'s genuinely sad.
Again, the woobie is a character trope not a situation trope. \\\"I felt sorry for them in one episode\\\" does not a woobie make. If it did, \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' would have at least six examples (it only has one for a \\\'\\\'reason\\\'\\\'). Eddy is an exception because [[spoiler: the circumstances were implied to have been going on for a long time]] but none of these, except maybe Jonny, qualify (and even he would require better context.)
** In a song where everyone sings what they want for Christmas, Meg wishes for a non-alcoholic father and for \\\'\\\'softer voices in her head\\\'\\\' - while [[TroubledFetalPosition curled up, rocking back and forth]] [[CornerOfWoe on the floor of her closet]]. Her most \\\"normal\\\" wish is for a car - [[FridgeLogic which she was supposed to get, twice]]. The first time was a bribe from her dad that he went back on (admittedly because she cracked and couldn\\\'t keep her end of the deal), and the second time Peter spent her car money on a tank. Meg has, at least twice, spoken openly about cutting herself, and several more times has alluded to it. And the few times someone in her family does act nice to her, it backfires, horribly. Then there\\\'s the time she snapped after going to prison and Lois\\\' line - paraphrased, \\\"Let\\\'s all go together to pick Meg up, I\\\'m sure it would mean the world to her to see all our faces again\\\" - implies that her family \\\'\\\'never\\\'\\\' went to visit her while she was locked up. I want to hug her, then drag her to therapy.
This is always dangerous territory for true examples especially from LongRunners. I believe Meg\\\'s description should be longer, but the way to make it longer is to rewrite it in \\\"summary style.\\\" I don\\\'t watch \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy\\\'\\\' much so I can\\\'t do it myself, but if someone else wants to, they can. Look at PJ from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' for the kind of thing I mean by \\\"summary style.\\\"
** What about that little green dude (forgot his name at the moment) The one who was nearly microscopic size, and spends the whole episode tying to navigate through the house to let everyone else (who was then locked outside) in. Everyone outside then proceed to DESTROY THE HOUSE AROUND HIM, and then find a ridiculously simple way to get in ON THEIR OWN!
*** You mean Peas? YMMV on him, he is considered to be a Scrappy by many people.
** What about poor Edwardo? He\\\'s afraid of everything, cries at a drop of a hat, and all he every wanted was a puppy and Mr. Harriman denies him.
*** YMMV, the crying at the drop of a hat could be considered annoying to some.
Waaay too much of an argument going on for two examples that are borderline at best. I haven\\\'t seen \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends\\\'\\\' in a while, so there may be other examples listed that don\\\'t really count, but these were the ones I felt okay to remove.
*** It\\\'s revealed in \\\"Bender\\\'s Big Score\\\" that a time duplicate of Fry lived above Panucci\\\'s Pizza from 2000 - 2012, so Seymour was \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' alone. In fact, when he does die, it\\\'s about a minute after Fry\\\'s greeted him.
*** After Fry spent several years away, looking for Leelu, That kind of makes him even more of a Woobie. his final thoughts where probably of Fry and playing in the park.
{{Natter}}. If there is something salvageable for Seymour\\\'s entry, feel free to add it back in. Otherwise, leave it.
Of the shows I felt comfortable editing parts of, I also fixed ExampleIndentation and other formatting errors.
** [[spoiler: Nazz]] in \\\'\\\'The Big Picture Show\\\'\\\' after [[spoiler: having the worst hair day ever from one of the Eds\\\' scams.]]
** Rolf in \\\'\\\'Wish You Were Ed\\\'\\\'. He wanted to go back home so bad...
** May Kanker in the Valentine\\\'s special...
** Jonny has shades of this in \\\"Dear Ed\\\" when he and Plank aren\\\'t friends and he misses plank.
** Sarah, of all people was a woobie in the episode \\\"For Your Ed Only\\\" when she finds her room destroyed and she\\\'s genuinely sad.
Again, the woobie is a character trope not a situation trope. \\\"I felt sorry for them in one episode\\\" does not a woobie make. If it did, \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' would have at least six examples (it only has one for a \\\'\\\'reason\\\'\\\'). Eddy is an exception because [[spoiler: the circumstances were implied to have been going on for a long time]] but none of these, except maybe Jonny, qualify (and even he would require better context.)
** In a song where everyone sings what they want for Christmas, Meg wishes for a non-alcoholic father and for \\\'\\\'softer voices in her head\\\'\\\' - while [[TroubledFetalPosition curled up, rocking back and forth]] [[CornerOfWoe on the floor of her closet]]. Her most \\\"normal\\\" wish is for a car - [[FridgeLogic which she was supposed to get, twice]]. The first time was a bribe from her dad that he went back on (admittedly because she cracked and couldn\\\'t keep her end of the deal), and the second time Peter spent her car money on a tank. Meg has, at least twice, spoken openly about cutting herself, and several more times has alluded to it. And the few times someone in her family does act nice to her, it backfires, horribly. Then there\\\'s the time she snapped after going to prison and Lois\\\' line - paraphrased, \\\"Let\\\'s all go together to pick Meg up, I\\\'m sure it would mean the world to her to see all our faces again\\\" - implies that her family \\\'\\\'never\\\'\\\' went to visit her while she was locked up. I want to hug her, then drag her to therapy.
This is always dangerous territory for true examples especially from LongRunners. I believe Meg\\\'s description should be longer, but the way to make it longer is to rewrite it in \\\"summary style.\\\" I don\\\'t watch \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy\\\'\\\' much so I can\\\'t do it myself, but if someone else wants to, they can. Look at PJ from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' for the kind of thing I mean by \\\"summary style.\\\"
** What about that little green dude (forgot his name at the moment) The one who was nearly microscopic size, and spends the whole episode tying to navigate through the house to let everyone else (who was then locked outside) in. Everyone outside then proceed to DESTROY THE HOUSE AROUND HIM, and then find a ridiculously simple way to get in ON THEIR OWN!
*** You mean Peas? YMMV on him, he is considered to be a Scrappy by many people.
** What about poor Edwardo? He\\\'s afraid of everything, cries at a drop of a hat, and all he every wanted was a puppy and Mr. Harriman denies him.
*** YMMV, the crying at the drop of a hat could be considered annoying to some.
Waaay too much of an argument going on for two examples that are borderline at best. I haven\\\'t seen \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends\\\'\\\' in a while, so there may be other examples listed that don\\\'t really count, but these were the ones I felt okay to remove.
*** It\\\'s revealed in \\\"Bender\\\'s Big Score\\\" that a time duplicate of Fry lived above Panucci\\\'s Pizza from 2000 - 2012, so Seymour was \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' alone. In fact, when he does die, it\\\'s about a minute after Fry\\\'s greeted him.
*** After Fry spent several years away, looking for Leelu, That kind of makes him even more of a Woobie. his final thoughts where probably of Fry and playing in the park.
{{Natter}}. If there is something salvageable for Seymour\\\'s entry, feel free to add it back in. Otherwise, leave it.
Of the shows I felt comfortable editing parts of, I also fixed ExampleIndentation and other formatting errors.
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\'\'\'DO NOT BE ALARMED I PULLED THE ENTIRE DAC SECTION.\'\'\'
The reason I pulled it is because those examples actually belong on the film page, and some of them are there already. There were only a few non-examples and some other errors I will put up for discussion on the film page\'s discussion.
The reason I pulled it is because those examples actually belong on the film page, and some of them are there already. There were only a few non-examples and some other errors I will put up for discussion on the film page\'s discussion.
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\\\'\\\'\\\'Do not be alarmed I pulled the entire DAC section and other movie examples.\\\'\\\'\\\'
The reason I pulled it is because those examples actually belong on the film page. There were only a few non-examples and some other errors I will put up for discussion on the film page\\\'s discussion.
The reason I pulled it is because those examples actually belong on the film page. There were only a few non-examples and some other errors I will put up for discussion on the film page\\\'s discussion.
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Now onto business:
* \\\'\\\'CodenameKidsNextDoor\\\'\\\': Pretty much all of [[FiveManBand Sector V]] at one time or another. [[spoiler:Sector Z is an even \\\'\\\'bigger\\\'\\\' example.]]
This is a ZeroContextExample and seems questionable. Expand it if you know how, otherwise, leave it off.
** But one of the worst offenders is the ChristmasEpisode (doubles as the WhamEpisode of the series) (Nickelodeon). It starts when his dog, Porkchop, is taken away for being accused of attacking Beebe, and the pound is thinking of putting the poor dog down. Then Doug has a flashback of when he got Porkchop for Christmas when he was little, and when Porkchop gave him his journal for Christmas the previous year prior to the episode, and then imagines no longer having Porkchop, and then he starts crying. Sure, there\\\'s a happy ending, but still...
*** Which also makes Porkchop a woobie in the episode.
** The robot from DougsFirstMovie.
WesternAnimation/{{Doug}} seemed to be a decent example, but I\\\'d like to remind people that the woobie is a \\\'\\\'character\\\'\\\' trope, not a \\\'\\\'situation\\\'\\\' trope. People are not \\\"the woobie in one episode.\\\" The robot is a ZeroContextExample. Also I question the wisdom of having a lengthy paragraph describing all the bad things that happened in one episode. Doug may well deserve a longer entry, but as it stands now, it should be expanded differently.
** [[spoiler: Nazz]] in \\\'\\\'The Big Picture Show\\\'\\\' after [[spoiler: having the worst hair day ever from one of the Eds\\\' scams.]]
** Rolf in \\\'\\\'Wish You Were Ed\\\'\\\'. He wanted to go back home so bad...
** May Kanker in the Valentine\\\'s special...
** Jonny has shades of this in \\\"Dear Ed\\\" when he and Plank aren\\\'t friends and he misses plank.
** Sarah, of all people was a woobie in the episode \\\"For Your Ed Only\\\" when she finds her room destroyed and she\\\'s genuinely sad.
Again, the woobie is a character trope not a situation trope. \\\"I felt sorry for them in one episode\\\" does not a woobie make. If it did, \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' would have at least six examples (it only has one for a \\\'\\\'reason\\\'\\\'). Eddy is an exception because [[spoiler: the circumstances were implied to have been going on for a long time]] but none of these, except maybe Jonny, qualify (and even he would require better context.)
** In a song where everyone sings what they want for Christmas, Meg wishes for a non-alcoholic father and for \\\'\\\'softer voices in her head\\\'\\\' - while [[TroubledFetalPosition curled up, rocking back and forth]] [[CornerOfWoe on the floor of her closet]]. Her most \\\"normal\\\" wish is for a car - [[FridgeLogic which she was supposed to get, twice]]. The first time was a bribe from her dad that he went back on (admittedly because she cracked and couldn\\\'t keep her end of the deal), and the second time Peter spent her car money on a tank. Meg has, at least twice, spoken openly about cutting herself, and several more times has alluded to it. And the few times someone in her family does act nice to her, it backfires, horribly. Then there\\\'s the time she snapped after going to prison and Lois\\\' line - paraphrased, \\\"Let\\\'s all go together to pick Meg up, I\\\'m sure it would mean the world to her to see all our faces again\\\" - implies that her family \\\'\\\'never\\\'\\\' went to visit her while she was locked up. I want to hug her, then drag her to therapy.
This is always dangerous territory for true examples especially from LongRunners. I believe Meg\\\'s description should be longer, but the way to make it longer is to rewrite it in \\\"summary style.\\\" I don\\\'t watch \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy\\\'\\\' much so I can\\\'t do it myself, but if someone else wants to, they can. Look at PJ from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' for the kind of thing I mean by \\\"summary style.\\\"
** What about that little green dude (forgot his name at the moment) The one who was nearly microscopic size, and spends the whole episode tying to navigate through the house to let everyone else (who was then locked outside) in. Everyone outside then proceed to DESTROY THE HOUSE AROUND HIM, and then find a ridiculously simple way to get in ON THEIR OWN!
*** You mean Peas? YMMV on him, he is considered to be a Scrappy by many people.
** What about poor Edwardo? He\\\'s afraid of everything, cries at a drop of a hat, and all he every wanted was a puppy and Mr. Harriman denies him.
*** YMMV, the crying at the drop of a hat could be considered annoying to some.
Waaay too much of an argument going on for two examples that are borderline at best. I haven\\\'t seen \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends\\\'\\\' in a while, so there may be other examples listed that don\\\'t really count, but these were the ones I felt okay to remove.
*** It\\\'s revealed in \\\"Bender\\\'s Big Score\\\" that a time duplicate of Fry lived above Panucci\\\'s Pizza from 2000 - 2012, so Seymour was \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' alone. In fact, when he does die, it\\\'s about a minute after Fry\\\'s greeted him.
*** After Fry spent several years away, looking for Leelu, That kind of makes him even more of a Woobie. his final thoughts where probably of Fry and playing in the park.
{{Natter}}. If there is something salvageable for Seymour\\\'s entry, feel free to add it back in. Otherwise, leave it.
Of the shows I felt comfortable editing parts of, I also fixed ExampleIndentation and
* \\\'\\\'CodenameKidsNextDoor\\\'\\\': Pretty much all of [[FiveManBand Sector V]] at one time or another. [[spoiler:Sector Z is an even \\\'\\\'bigger\\\'\\\' example.]]
This is a ZeroContextExample and seems questionable. Expand it if you know how, otherwise, leave it off.
** But one of the worst offenders is the ChristmasEpisode (doubles as the WhamEpisode of the series) (Nickelodeon). It starts when his dog, Porkchop, is taken away for being accused of attacking Beebe, and the pound is thinking of putting the poor dog down. Then Doug has a flashback of when he got Porkchop for Christmas when he was little, and when Porkchop gave him his journal for Christmas the previous year prior to the episode, and then imagines no longer having Porkchop, and then he starts crying. Sure, there\\\'s a happy ending, but still...
*** Which also makes Porkchop a woobie in the episode.
** The robot from DougsFirstMovie.
WesternAnimation/{{Doug}} seemed to be a decent example, but I\\\'d like to remind people that the woobie is a \\\'\\\'character\\\'\\\' trope, not a \\\'\\\'situation\\\'\\\' trope. People are not \\\"the woobie in one episode.\\\" The robot is a ZeroContextExample. Also I question the wisdom of having a lengthy paragraph describing all the bad things that happened in one episode. Doug may well deserve a longer entry, but as it stands now, it should be expanded differently.
** [[spoiler: Nazz]] in \\\'\\\'The Big Picture Show\\\'\\\' after [[spoiler: having the worst hair day ever from one of the Eds\\\' scams.]]
** Rolf in \\\'\\\'Wish You Were Ed\\\'\\\'. He wanted to go back home so bad...
** May Kanker in the Valentine\\\'s special...
** Jonny has shades of this in \\\"Dear Ed\\\" when he and Plank aren\\\'t friends and he misses plank.
** Sarah, of all people was a woobie in the episode \\\"For Your Ed Only\\\" when she finds her room destroyed and she\\\'s genuinely sad.
Again, the woobie is a character trope not a situation trope. \\\"I felt sorry for them in one episode\\\" does not a woobie make. If it did, \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' would have at least six examples (it only has one for a \\\'\\\'reason\\\'\\\'). Eddy is an exception because [[spoiler: the circumstances were implied to have been going on for a long time]] but none of these, except maybe Jonny, qualify (and even he would require better context.)
** In a song where everyone sings what they want for Christmas, Meg wishes for a non-alcoholic father and for \\\'\\\'softer voices in her head\\\'\\\' - while [[TroubledFetalPosition curled up, rocking back and forth]] [[CornerOfWoe on the floor of her closet]]. Her most \\\"normal\\\" wish is for a car - [[FridgeLogic which she was supposed to get, twice]]. The first time was a bribe from her dad that he went back on (admittedly because she cracked and couldn\\\'t keep her end of the deal), and the second time Peter spent her car money on a tank. Meg has, at least twice, spoken openly about cutting herself, and several more times has alluded to it. And the few times someone in her family does act nice to her, it backfires, horribly. Then there\\\'s the time she snapped after going to prison and Lois\\\' line - paraphrased, \\\"Let\\\'s all go together to pick Meg up, I\\\'m sure it would mean the world to her to see all our faces again\\\" - implies that her family \\\'\\\'never\\\'\\\' went to visit her while she was locked up. I want to hug her, then drag her to therapy.
This is always dangerous territory for true examples especially from LongRunners. I believe Meg\\\'s description should be longer, but the way to make it longer is to rewrite it in \\\"summary style.\\\" I don\\\'t watch \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy\\\'\\\' much so I can\\\'t do it myself, but if someone else wants to, they can. Look at PJ from \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/GoofTroop\\\'\\\' for the kind of thing I mean by \\\"summary style.\\\"
** What about that little green dude (forgot his name at the moment) The one who was nearly microscopic size, and spends the whole episode tying to navigate through the house to let everyone else (who was then locked outside) in. Everyone outside then proceed to DESTROY THE HOUSE AROUND HIM, and then find a ridiculously simple way to get in ON THEIR OWN!
*** You mean Peas? YMMV on him, he is considered to be a Scrappy by many people.
** What about poor Edwardo? He\\\'s afraid of everything, cries at a drop of a hat, and all he every wanted was a puppy and Mr. Harriman denies him.
*** YMMV, the crying at the drop of a hat could be considered annoying to some.
Waaay too much of an argument going on for two examples that are borderline at best. I haven\\\'t seen \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends\\\'\\\' in a while, so there may be other examples listed that don\\\'t really count, but these were the ones I felt okay to remove.
*** It\\\'s revealed in \\\"Bender\\\'s Big Score\\\" that a time duplicate of Fry lived above Panucci\\\'s Pizza from 2000 - 2012, so Seymour was \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\'\\\' alone. In fact, when he does die, it\\\'s about a minute after Fry\\\'s greeted him.
*** After Fry spent several years away, looking for Leelu, That kind of makes him even more of a Woobie. his final thoughts where probably of Fry and playing in the park.
{{Natter}}. If there is something salvageable for Seymour\\\'s entry, feel free to add it back in. Otherwise, leave it.
Of the shows I felt comfortable editing parts of, I also fixed ExampleIndentation and
