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The problem I have with your argument is that it emphasizes a comparison between how long humanity took to achieve their goals versus earlier species. Yes, humans gained more political power in a short amount of time than the other races, but this is largely due to concession than reward. Humanity is the equivalent of the galaxy RulesLawyer: you tell them the rules, and then they game the system to bend it to their desires. However, where this trope comes into play is that even after they do this, most other species (and the Council) basically say \
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The problem I have with your argument is that it emphasizes a comparison between how long humanity took to achieve their goals versus earlier species. Yes, humans gained more political power in a short amount of time than the other races, but this is largely due to concession than reward. Humanity is the equivalent of the galaxy RulesLawyer: you tell them the rules, and then they game the system to bend it to their desires. However, where this trope comes into play is that even after they do this, most other species (and the Council) basically say \\\"Good job with that. Now scram.\\\" Yes, humans are ambitious any whiny little bastards, but quite often, they truly are not given credit for their accomplishments, even when they EARN them
Humanity gains its Council seat largely because the Council would\\\'ve ceased to exist if they hadn\\\'t (in one ending, they just seize it). The turians earned their seat after a long war because the Krogan Rebellions were not a decisive threat against Citadel government, but were a disastrous menace against its colonies. There\\\'s also the fact that, as I said in my entry, humanity had the benefit of coming in millennia after the political system had settled, because they were able to model their success on the political climate. When the turians were around, there was no \\\"we did this to earn a council seat\\\" standard.
Next, you are grossly inflating the faults of humanity and minimalizing its virtues, particularly in regards to the First Contact War. Humans only \\\"broke the law\\\" in that incident because they didn\\\'t know there was one to begin with. And besides that, both the salarians AND the asari did much, \\\'\\\'MUCH\\\'\\\' worse. Humans likely would have been crushed in a full-scale bout with the turians, but we\\\'ll never know how badly it would have gotten, particularly since humans don\\\'t fight wars of attrition, and you don\\\'t need to outfight an army to win a war against it.
And what\\\'s this about human\\\'s \\\"can\\\'t defend their own colonies\\\"? It\\\'s flat out stated in the Codex that the ONLY human world ever captured by an alien force (pre-Collectors) was Shanxi, and that was ONLY because humanity had never met aliens before to that point. And during the Collector attacks, it was only planets in the Terminus, far out of Alliance jurisdiction, that were captured, and considering the Collectors\\\' level of technology, you can\\\'t blame them for that. The only world attacked by pirates and raiders are those in the traverse, where pirates and raiders SPECIFICALLY target humans for being the only species with the balls to colonize there.
If you\\\'re annoyed with something, it shouldn\\\'t be reflected in your edits.
Humanity gains its Council seat largely because the Council would\\\'ve ceased to exist if they hadn\\\'t (in one ending, they just seize it). The turians earned their seat after a long war because the Krogan Rebellions were not a decisive threat against Citadel government, but were a disastrous menace against its colonies. There\\\'s also the fact that, as I said in my entry, humanity had the benefit of coming in millennia after the political system had settled, because they were able to model their success on the political climate. When the turians were around, there was no \\\"we did this to earn a council seat\\\" standard.
Next, you are grossly inflating the faults of humanity and minimalizing its virtues, particularly in regards to the First Contact War. Humans only \\\"broke the law\\\" in that incident because they didn\\\'t know there was one to begin with. And besides that, both the salarians AND the asari did much, \\\'\\\'MUCH\\\'\\\' worse. Humans likely would have been crushed in a full-scale bout with the turians, but we\\\'ll never know how badly it would have gotten, particularly since humans don\\\'t fight wars of attrition, and you don\\\'t need to outfight an army to win a war against it.
And what\\\'s this about human\\\'s \\\"can\\\'t defend their own colonies\\\"? It\\\'s flat out stated in the Codex that the ONLY human world ever captured by an alien force (pre-Collectors) was Shanxi, and that was ONLY because humanity had never met aliens before to that point. And during the Collector attacks, it was only planets in the Terminus, far out of Alliance jurisdiction, that were captured, and considering the Collectors\\\' level of technology, you can\\\'t blame them for that. The only world attacked by pirates and raiders are those in the traverse, where pirates and raiders SPECIFICALLY target humans for being the only species with the balls to colonize there.
If you\\\'re annoyed with something, it shouldn\\\'t be reflected in your edits.
