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I agree that this is a trope, but only in-universe examples. Otherwise, there\'d be no way for any female character to NOT be on this list.
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I agree that this is a trope, but only in-universe examples. Otherwise, there\\\'d be no way for any female character to NOT be on this list.
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Specifically relevant to the Peggy example, the bit about the female character being a \\\'bonus\\\' to someone else would already disqualify her for the trope. The whole point of Steve and Peggy\\\'s relationship is that \\\'\\\'it was cut tragically short\\\'\\\'. They clearly had feelings for each other, but never got to have the romance they would have wanted because the war had to come first, and \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' of them were more devoted to winning the war and saving the world than they were to each other.
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Specifically relevant to the Peggy example, the bit about the female character being a \\\'bonus\\\' to someone else would already disqualify her for the trope. The whole point of Steve and Peggy\\\'s relationship is that \\\'\\\'it was cut tragically short\\\'\\\'. They clearly had feelings for each other, but never got to have the romance they would have wanted because the war had to come first, and \\\'\\\'both\\\'\\\' of them were more devoted to winning the war and saving the world than they were to each other.
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Haley Starshine is another example: see, Haley is a competent member of the Order of the Stick and, for a long while, was the central protagonist of the post-Azure City story arc. She is absolutely every bit as important as the rest of the cast. \'\'But\'\', we have to remember that the focus of her character is and has always been around male characters, first her father, then her love interest. Even when she was the main character, her primary goal was getting Roy raised from the dead (which I wouldn\'t normally count, except that makes it the third point of proof in a continuing trend with Rich Burlew\'s female characters). She would literally not be in the story at all if she didn\'t have a famous thief father who destroyed her ability to love and trust, so that she could spend the second half of her character development letting Elan teach her how to love and trust again. And because that part of her development actually grows and changes and her skill as a rogue is constant, it becomes more important to the plot.
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Haley Starshine is another example: see, Haley is a competent member of the Order of the Stick and, for a long while, was the central protagonist of the post-Azure City story arc. She is absolutely every bit as important as the rest of the cast. \\\'\\\'But\\\'\\\', we have to remember that the focus of her character is and has always been around male characters, first her father, then her love interest. Even when she was the main character, her primary goal was getting Roy raised from the dead (which I wouldn\\\'t normally count, except that makes it the third point of proof in a continuing trend with Rich Burlew\\\'s female characters). She would literally not be in the story at all if she didn\\\'t have a famous thief father who destroyed her ability to love and trust, so that she could spend the second half of her character development letting Elan teach her how to love and trust again. And because that part of her development actually grows and changes and her skill as a rogue is constant, it becomes more important to her character than her role in the story.
