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It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them and at some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]).

[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney A good example would be to construct a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

P.P.P.S: Okay, guys. This one is definitely a [[BrokenAesop Broken Aesop]]. A moral lesson which is reached by a deus-ex-machina; a very forced and contrived one, at that..

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them and at some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]).

[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney A good example would be to construct a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them (At some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]).

[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney A good example would be to construct a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them (At some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]). [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney A good example would be to construct a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them (At some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]). [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney It\\\'s like I will draw a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them (At some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.
Regardless of that, the stage is yours with that point. With such a disgusting dues-ex-machina to solve anything, the level of writing is positioned at an all time low.
They fought the whole episode, but suddenly they are okay with each other. What?

My problem with this is; why did they suddenly change their minds? They had no reason to do so. The pies gave them the ability to renegotiate? They done so from the first place. The pies gave them the ability to move the trees which previously was said to be impossible?
So why do they listen to each other NOW? Seeing this as merely poor writing is not good enough. If this is not a Family Unfriendly trope; it has to be something else, besides the Deus Ex Machina; that final line of one of the natives really threw me off the chair : \\\"Hey..This is delicious, I have a much better idea!\\\" oh, do you? Now? Why are the settlers cutting their trees now. Why. How does that benefit the settlers? Why? Why? Explain show. You just said they have no where to relocate the orchard. So why are they doing it now? Why? [[DuelsDecideEverything WHY DOES PIES SOLVE EVERYTHING]]!?

If anyone wants the reference to my .. BIG ISSUES with this episode, watch the final showdown and how one party treats it. Combine drooling over the settlers\\\'s culinary output and their abrupt \\\'\\\'\\\'compromise\\\'\\\'\\\'. I will agree that Family unfriendly Aesop \\\'\\\'might\\\'\\\' be less relevant, but the correlation is there; as they changed their minds not by \\\'\\\'\\\'communicating\\\'\\\'\\\', but by a sense of \\\'\\\'\\\'greed to motivate them\\\'\\\'\\\' to to relocate / move some of those dang trees ([[DeusExMachina but I digress]]). [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney It\\\'s like I will draw a peace summit by offering the leaders money]].

P.S: What do you mean source? As the episode? Search for \\\'over a barrel\\\' in youtube and you\\\'ll find it.

P.P.S: If it\\\'s not FamilyUnfriendlyAesop (even though greed -> solutions), I do believe it should go somewhere else. [[DuelsDecideEverything DuelsDecideEverything]], [[DeusExMachina DeusExMachina]] perhaps?

It\\\'s not entirely true to say they did not knew why they wanted the orchard out; the new visitors, our heroes, explained everything to them (At some point in the episode one of the natives even say : \\\"The ponies refused to move their trees\\\", suggesting they did try to communicate on some level; but they still declined.