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In the original early 1980s handbook Thor was stated to be exactly on the (symbolic and for comparative purposes only) \
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In the original early 1980s handbook Thor was stated to be exactly on the (symbolic and for comparative purposes only) \\\"class 95\\\" level, Hercules exactly at the \\\"class 100\\\" level, whereas an angry Hulk was considerably above the level breaker.
Although more suspect, shortly afterwards the RPG of the time claimed that an angry Hulk had \\\"class 1000\\\" strength, whereas Thor was \\\"class 100\\\", and the Hulk has grown immensely in power since those days, whereas Thor hasn\\\'t.
Mid-1980s The Beyonder established that Hulk literally had no finite limits, whereas Thor, although strong enough to shatter planets, definitely does have limits.
\\\"Thor 385\\\" (I think), in a flashback penned by Stan Lee had Thor on the decisively losing end in a hammer-less fistfight with Hulk, as in severely damaged but refusing to give up, despite that Hulk had none whatsoever, but also had Hulk behave uncharacteristically villainous compared to the childlike version.
In \\\"Hulk 440\\\", an angry Hulk slugs it out with a Thor enhanced tenfold above his ordinary level by \\\"the warrior\\\'s madness\\\", and as his strength just continued to rise throughout the battle by the end he was visibly shown pushing Thor towards the ground by just using a single hand, with writer Peter David again confirming Thor being ten times his ordinary level in a usenet post.
In \\\"Onslaught: Marvel Universe\\\" Hulk overpowers Onslaught, who at the time had a power level literally equivalent to at least one, and possibly two, Celestial(s).
In one of long-time Thor writer (and all-around awesome human being) Tom DeFalco\\\'s large Marvel character-explanation books he states outright that Thor gets by through greater skill against hte Hulk, desptie the latter\\\'s great advantage in strength and durability.
During \\\"World War Hulk\\\", the title character manages to match and overcome two different characters with more than power enough to destroy multiple universes, Zom, and The Sentry.
The most recent handbook claimed that Thor is still exactly at the \\\"class 100\\\" border in the mythology-centric edition, whereas Hulk\\\'s most recent entry stated that he starts off well above the limit and has displayed the ability to grow far beyond the range of virtually any other character within it, to the extent that it is very insufficient to define him by it.
In a recent one-shot, for which the name escapes me, after battling the Wrecking Crew, a not particularly angry Hulk grabs Thor\\\'s arm and forces the latter to do a \\\"stop hitting yourself\\\" with Mjolnir until he is almost unconscious.
In addition there were all those occasions when Hulk demonstrated the ability to grow many times more powerful than his calm state.
So basically, although I \\\'\\\'definitely\\\'\\\' don\\\'t like the personality of the current incarnation of Hulk (he destroys innocent people\\\'s homes, is genuinely focused on hate, not just misunderstood, kills entire planets full of people just because they were criminals, and risks to cause dimensional armageddon any time he completely loses it, which starts to sound more and more like an incentive for suicide to not risk trillions of dead), usually like Thor, and think that it would be better if they were friends and helped each other out all the time, rather than just sometimes, yes Hulk is definitely far more powerful as such.
That doesn\\\'t mean much however, as if Thor ever started to fight smart against Hulk, rather than just attempting to slug it out for no good reason beyond taking a beating, like, say, instantly teleporting him into a black hole, or into outer space and then bombarding him with \\\"god-blasts\\\" from a safe distance of a million miles or so... well Hulk is as good as indestructible, and can heal even from total disintegration, but he would be out of Thor\\\'s hair... and considering the whole dimensional armageddon ticking bomb issue, maybe Thor actually has a moral responsibility to move Hulk to an unpopulated part of the multiverse, although providing him with assorted things to help him happy in the meantime. There is no need to be cruel just for the sake of being cruel.
Anyway, in addition the text is also misleading regarding Hercules and Juggernaut. When fighting Hercules hand-to-hand only in the \\\"Blood Oath\\\" miniseries, Thor states outright that Hercules has the upper hand in unarmed fighting, although they are roughly the same strength, so it is more a skill specification and greater durability issue, and Thor obviously has the upper hand with his hammer. Additionally, Thor couldn\\\'t do squat against the Juggernaut without first neutralising his \\\"near absolute invulnerability\\\" force-field. Although with that gone he did have the upper hand. Juggernaut is also more powerful nowadays though...
Although more suspect, shortly afterwards the RPG of the time claimed that an angry Hulk had \\\"class 1000\\\" strength, whereas Thor was \\\"class 100\\\", and the Hulk has grown immensely in power since those days, whereas Thor hasn\\\'t.
Mid-1980s The Beyonder established that Hulk literally had no finite limits, whereas Thor, although strong enough to shatter planets, definitely does have limits.
\\\"Thor 385\\\" (I think), in a flashback penned by Stan Lee had Thor on the decisively losing end in a hammer-less fistfight with Hulk, as in severely damaged but refusing to give up, despite that Hulk had none whatsoever, but also had Hulk behave uncharacteristically villainous compared to the childlike version.
In \\\"Hulk 440\\\", an angry Hulk slugs it out with a Thor enhanced tenfold above his ordinary level by \\\"the warrior\\\'s madness\\\", and as his strength just continued to rise throughout the battle by the end he was visibly shown pushing Thor towards the ground by just using a single hand, with writer Peter David again confirming Thor being ten times his ordinary level in a usenet post.
In \\\"Onslaught: Marvel Universe\\\" Hulk overpowers Onslaught, who at the time had a power level literally equivalent to at least one, and possibly two, Celestial(s).
In one of long-time Thor writer (and all-around awesome human being) Tom DeFalco\\\'s large Marvel character-explanation books he states outright that Thor gets by through greater skill against hte Hulk, desptie the latter\\\'s great advantage in strength and durability.
During \\\"World War Hulk\\\", the title character manages to match and overcome two different characters with more than power enough to destroy multiple universes, Zom, and The Sentry.
The most recent handbook claimed that Thor is still exactly at the \\\"class 100\\\" border in the mythology-centric edition, whereas Hulk\\\'s most recent entry stated that he starts off well above the limit and has displayed the ability to grow far beyond the range of virtually any other character within it, to the extent that it is very insufficient to define him by it.
In a recent one-shot, for which the name escapes me, after battling the Wrecking Crew, a not particularly angry Hulk grabs Thor\\\'s arm and forces the latter to do a \\\"stop hitting yourself\\\" with Mjolnir until he is almost unconscious.
In addition there were all those occasions when Hulk demonstrated the ability to grow many times more powerful than his calm state.
So basically, although I \\\'\\\'definitely\\\'\\\' don\\\'t like the personality of the current incarnation of Hulk (he destroys innocent people\\\'s homes, is genuinely focused on hate, not just misunderstood, kills entire planets full of people just because they were criminals, and risks to cause dimensional armageddon any time he completely loses it, which starts to sound more and more like an incentive for suicide to not risk trillions of dead), usually like Thor, and think that it would be better if they were friends and helped each other out all the time, rather than just sometimes, yes Hulk is definitely far more powerful as such.
That doesn\\\'t mean much however, as if Thor ever started to fight smart against Hulk, rather than just attempting to slug it out for no good reason beyond taking a beating, like, say, instantly teleporting him into a black hole, or into outer space and then bombarding him with \\\"god-blasts\\\" from a safe distance of a million miles or so... well Hulk is as good as indestructible, and can heal even from total disintegration, but he would be out of Thor\\\'s hair... and considering the whole dimensional armageddon ticking bomb issue, maybe Thor actually has a moral responsibility to move Hulk to an unpopulated part of the multiverse, although providing him with assorted things to help him happy in the meantime. There is no need to be cruel just for the sake of being cruel.
Anyway, in addition the text is also misleading regarding Hercules and Juggernaut. When fighting Hercules hand-to-hand only in the \\\"Blood Oath\\\" miniseries, Thor states outright that Hercules has the upper hand in unarmed fighting, although they are roughly the same strength, so it is more a skill specification and greater durability issue, and Thor obviously has the upper hand with his hammer. Additionally, Thor couldn\\\'t do squat against the Juggernaut without first neutralising his \\\"near absolute invulnerability\\\" force-field. Although with that gone he did have the upper hand. Juggernaut is also more powerful nowadays though...
