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It is not \\\"trivial\\\" because you are comparing piloted fighters to \\\"attack drones,\\\" which may include things like non-sapient AIs, or simple remote control. I\\\'d hardly call such differences \\\"trivial.\\\"
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
Not to mention that \\\'\\\'none\\\'\\\' of this has to do with good or bad writing. Whether a trope is \\\"justified\\\" or not in the sense of realism or internal consistency, or whether it is more properly associated with hard or soft science fiction, has nothing to do with whether it is good writing or not. You are the one making this connection, not I.
As for my writing style being needlessly wordy, I disagree. It\\\'s exactly as wordy as needed. And to be blunt, I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
Not to mention that \\\'\\\'none\\\'\\\' of this has to do with good or bad writing. Whether a trope is \\\"justified\\\" or not in the sense of realism or internal consistency, or whether it is more properly associated with hard or soft science fiction, has nothing to do with whether it is good writing or not. You are the one making this connection, not I.
As for my writing style being needlessly wordy, I disagree. It\\\'s exactly as wordy as needed. And to be blunt, I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
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It is not \\\"trivial\\\" because you are comparing piloted fighters to \\\"attack drones,\\\" which may include things like non-sapient AIs, or simple remote control. I\\\'d hardly call such differences \\\"trivial.\\\"
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
As for my writing style being needlessly wordy, I disagree. It\\\'s exactly as wordy as needed. And to be blunt, I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
As for my writing style being needlessly wordy, I disagree. It\\\'s exactly as wordy as needed. And to be blunt, I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
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It is not \\\"trivial\\\" because you are comparing piloted fighters to \\\"attack drones,\\\" which may include things like non-sapient AIs, or simple remote control. I\\\'d hardly call such differences \\\"trivial.\\\"
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
As for my writing style being wordy, I disagree. And I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
\\\"Disproportionate\\\" may have negative connotations, but if you are going to change it, please change it to something that sounds better than \\\"a massive amount of protagonists.\\\" That sounds like something I\\\'d get when buying in bulk down at the Protagonist Store.
\\\"May be a Justified trope\\\" sounds like \\\"it MIGHT be justified, or it might not be. It\\\'s also a trope, in a work of fiction.\\\" \\\"Actually rather sensible\\\" sounds like \\\"space fighters are a very logical idea and quite realistic.\\\" My phrasing sounds less certain, as it should be.
Basically, in my changes after your edits, I preserved the sense of what you were doing, while trying to get the whole thing to flow better, and adding one sole mention that yes, as a matter of fact, some hard sci-fi writers don\\\'t think space fighters make sense. That\\\'s not \\\"schitsophrenia\\\", that\\\'s an important point that should be mentioned in the article for a trope of fiction. I think people who want to learn about this trope may want to know that not all writers think space fighters are sensible, regardless of what \\\"real physics\\\" say.
It sounds to me like you are unwilling to compromise.
As for your claim that I think \\\"this trope is not good,\\\" consider that [[FridgeLogic I\\\'m the one who made the YKTTW, and launched it]]. I doubt I\\\'d have invested that time in a trope I hate. I very much like this trope. I just don\\\'t think there are grounds to be as sure as you are that it\\\'s 100% realistic and sensible, and I want the article to reflect this.
As for my writing style being wordy, I disagree. And I do not think your writing is a major improvement on my supposedly wordy style.
Short version: I changed some of your wording, but kept the cores of your changes. This isn\\\'t good enough for you, and you do not want to compromise. This makes me very sad and I hope you change your mind.
