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\'\'Socialism isn\'t defined by hammer and sickle, but by manipulation of politics and economics to reach social goals (A.Zinoviev\'s example was \
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\\\'\\\'Socialism isn\\\'t defined by hammer and sickle, but by manipulation of politics and economics to reach social goals (A.Zinoviev\\\'s example was \\\"hidden underemployment instead of visible unemployment\\\" trick in late USSR).\\\'\\\'
I never said it was.
Otherwise, filler.
\\\'\\\'Whatever \\\"majority\\\" wants, the question is, how much their wishes are connected to the results?\\\'\\\'
Depends on the government.
In a government with regular elections, there certainly is quite a connection. In a dictatorship, there is very little. Either way, there can never be a 100% connection, unless it\\\'s a full Democracy (Which would suck).
\\\'\\\'Most people in USSR probably didn\\\'t want even Winter War—let alone full-contact with Germany—either, so what?\\\'\\\'
The USSR \\\'\\\'\\\'invaded\\\'\\\'\\\' parts of Europe. They went to war long before Hitler threw tanks at them.
The United States didn\\\'t \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' to go to war, both in the government and in the general populace, and the government needs to keep popular with the people (Since approval=votes). Isolationism was the prominent idea because we were still recovering from a depression. And no, FDR wanting to go to war did not mean that the entire government wanted to.
\\\'\\\'Uncle Joe didn\\\'t exactly ask what he can do for people. Speaking of which, \\\"Suddenly! Pearl Harbor!\\\" tale perfectly mirrors \\\"Suddenly! Brest!\\\" story, even if versions without retcons wouldn\\\'t be so similar.\\\'\\\'
The Japanese had two options, since they needed resources. They chose the poorer one.
And yes, I know about the embargo. No, it\\\'s not shocking news for anyone, unless you count elementary students.
You are still not explaining your point. The United States wasn\\\'t TRYING to spread Socialism to other governments. And what about the other sides? I hardly think you can talk about World War 2 without mentioning Italy, France, Japan, or Britain.
Finally, on another note: Are you really going to say that socialism made the war dirty? Not extreme racism, nationalism, total war, etc? Are you going to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' the Rape of Nanking or similar events?
Don\\\'t use real life atrocities as tools to demonize some target.
I never said it was.
Otherwise, filler.
\\\'\\\'Whatever \\\"majority\\\" wants, the question is, how much their wishes are connected to the results?\\\'\\\'
Depends on the government.
In a government with regular elections, there certainly is quite a connection. In a dictatorship, there is very little. Either way, there can never be a 100% connection, unless it\\\'s a full Democracy (Which would suck).
\\\'\\\'Most people in USSR probably didn\\\'t want even Winter War—let alone full-contact with Germany—either, so what?\\\'\\\'
The USSR \\\'\\\'\\\'invaded\\\'\\\'\\\' parts of Europe. They went to war long before Hitler threw tanks at them.
The United States didn\\\'t \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' to go to war, both in the government and in the general populace, and the government needs to keep popular with the people (Since approval=votes). Isolationism was the prominent idea because we were still recovering from a depression. And no, FDR wanting to go to war did not mean that the entire government wanted to.
\\\'\\\'Uncle Joe didn\\\'t exactly ask what he can do for people. Speaking of which, \\\"Suddenly! Pearl Harbor!\\\" tale perfectly mirrors \\\"Suddenly! Brest!\\\" story, even if versions without retcons wouldn\\\'t be so similar.\\\'\\\'
The Japanese had two options, since they needed resources. They chose the poorer one.
And yes, I know about the embargo. No, it\\\'s not shocking news for anyone, unless you count elementary students.
You are still not explaining your point. The United States wasn\\\'t TRYING to spread Socialism to other governments. And what about the other sides? I hardly think you can talk about World War 2 without mentioning Italy, France, Japan, or Britain.
Finally, on another note: Are you really going to say that socialism made the war dirty? Not extreme racism, nationalism, total war, etc? Are you going to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' the Rape of Nanking or similar events?
Don\\\'t use real life atrocities as tools to demonize some target.
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I have no idea what typo you made, but ismophrenia isn\'t a word at the moment. Mind telling me what you actually \'\'meant\'\' to say?
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I have no idea what typo you made, but ismophrenia isn\\\'t a real word at the moment, unless Google managed to fuck up completely. Mind telling me what you actually \\\'\\\'\\\'meant\\\'\\\'\\\' to say?
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\'\'Socialism isn\'t defined by hammer and sickle, but by manipulation of politics and economics to reach social goals (A.Zinoviev\'s example was \
to:
\\\'\\\'Socialism isn\\\'t defined by hammer and sickle, but by manipulation of politics and economics to reach social goals (A.Zinoviev\\\'s example was \\\"hidden underemployment instead of visible unemployment\\\" trick in late USSR).\\\'\\\'
I never said it was.
Otherwise, filler.
\\\'\\\'Whatever \\\"majority\\\" wants, the question is, how much their wishes are connected to the results?\\\'\\\'
Depends on the government.
In a government with regular elections, there certainly is quite a connection. In a dictatorship, there is very little. Either way, there can never be a 100% connection, unless it\\\'s a full Democracy (Which would suck).
\\\'\\\'Most people in USSR probably didn\\\'t want even Winter War—let alone full-contact with Germany—either, so what?\\\'\\\'
The USSR \\\'\\\'\\\'invaded\\\'\\\'\\\' parts of Europe. They went to war long before Hitler threw tanks at them.
The United States didn\\\'t \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' to go to war, both in the government and in the general populace, and the government needs to keep popular with the people (Since approval=votes). Isolationism was the prominent idea because we were still recovering from a depression. And no, FDR wanting to go to war did not mean that the entire government wanted to.
\\\'\\\'Uncle Joe didn\\\'t exactly ask what he can do for people. Speaking of which, \\\"Suddenly! Pearl Harbor!\\\" tale perfectly mirrors \\\"Suddenly! Brest!\\\" story, even if versions without retcons wouldn\\\'t be so similar.\\\'\\\'
The Japanese had two options, since they needed resources. They chose the poorer one.
And yes, I know about the embargo. No, it\\\'s not shocking news for anyone, unless you count elementary students.
You are still not explaining your point. The United States wasn\\\'t TRYING to spread Socialism to other governments. And what about the other sides? I hardly think you can talk about World War 2 without mentioning Italy, France, Japan, or Britain.
Finally, on another note: Are you really going to compare New Deal Socialism to the Rape of Nanking?
I never said it was.
Otherwise, filler.
\\\'\\\'Whatever \\\"majority\\\" wants, the question is, how much their wishes are connected to the results?\\\'\\\'
Depends on the government.
In a government with regular elections, there certainly is quite a connection. In a dictatorship, there is very little. Either way, there can never be a 100% connection, unless it\\\'s a full Democracy (Which would suck).
\\\'\\\'Most people in USSR probably didn\\\'t want even Winter War—let alone full-contact with Germany—either, so what?\\\'\\\'
The USSR \\\'\\\'\\\'invaded\\\'\\\'\\\' parts of Europe. They went to war long before Hitler threw tanks at them.
The United States didn\\\'t \\\'\\\'want\\\'\\\' to go to war, both in the government and in the general populace, and the government needs to keep popular with the people (Since approval=votes). Isolationism was the prominent idea because we were still recovering from a depression. And no, FDR wanting to go to war did not mean that the entire government wanted to.
\\\'\\\'Uncle Joe didn\\\'t exactly ask what he can do for people. Speaking of which, \\\"Suddenly! Pearl Harbor!\\\" tale perfectly mirrors \\\"Suddenly! Brest!\\\" story, even if versions without retcons wouldn\\\'t be so similar.\\\'\\\'
The Japanese had two options, since they needed resources. They chose the poorer one.
And yes, I know about the embargo. No, it\\\'s not shocking news for anyone, unless you count elementary students.
You are still not explaining your point. The United States wasn\\\'t TRYING to spread Socialism to other governments. And what about the other sides? I hardly think you can talk about World War 2 without mentioning Italy, France, Japan, or Britain.
Finally, on another note: Are you really going to compare New Deal Socialism to the Rape of Nanking?
