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RedViking: Regarding the ShootTheShaggyDog entry. The worst ending to the second game is not this trope. For it to really be a ShootTheShaggyDog, the suicide mission had to be a complete failure. But even the worst ending shows [[spoiler: the base getting destroyed or being taken over by Cerberus. Furthermore, Joker escapes so that he can warn the galaxy about the Reapers. Whatever the Collectors were planning by making a human-reaper, the point is that you put a stop to that even if everyone got killed. You forced the Reapers to change tactics]]. That is not pointless in any way, shape or form because there\'s still a chance, especially if [[spoiler:Cerberus is in control of the base]].
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RedViking: Regarding the ShootTheShaggyDog entry. The worst ending to the second game is not this trope. For it to really be a ShootTheShaggyDog, the suicide mission had to be a complete failure. But even the worst ending shows [[spoiler: the base getting destroyed or being taken over by Cerberus. Furthermore, Joker escapes so that he can warn the galaxy about the Reapers. Whatever the Collectors were planning by making a human-reaper, the point is that you put a stop to that even if everyone got killed. You forced the Reapers to change tactics]]. That is not pointless in any way, shape or form because there\\\'s still a chance, especially if [[spoiler:Cerberus is in control of the base]].

Furthermore, Shepard\\\'s death just means that\\\'s the end of his/her story, not a default win for the Reapers. There\\\'s nothing that says someone can\\\'t pick up where Shepard left off, nor does it invalidate certain choices Shepard may or may not have made regarding the recruitment of allies against the Reapers.
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