Discussion History WesternAnimation / TheLionKing1994

TheWoobie page says: \\\"Please note that TheWoobie is a specific type of character that is supposed to draw the audience\\\'s sympathy. If the character is the ChewToy, ButtMonkey, or is a {{Jerkass}} he is not TheWoobie.\\\"

So why, pray tell, do we have this entry under TheWoobie?

\\\"The hyenas. Exiled in a crapsack territory by Mufasa and then wounded by the king who taught Simba \\\"to respect all the creatures\\\" (it seems that hyenas aren\\\'t even creatures...); abused by Scar during the Be Prepared sequence and later betrayed by their leader that blamed them for all his crimes in front of Simba; killed in numbers by Simba and the lionesses during the climactic battle (and even beaten by the calm, wise Rafiki as well); finally, badly hurt by a furious Pumbaa, only because \\\"they call me Mister Pig!\\\". Not surprising if many fans have a soft spot for them...\\\"

When I cleaned up the page a while back I took that down, but it was put back up. The last thing I want to do is start an edit war, but I don\\\'t think this is a proper entry for that trope. Never in all the years I\\\'ve watched The Lion King did I think the hyena\\\'s roles were meant to be sympathetic, nor did I even particularly pity them. Plus, I \\\'\\\'definitely\\\'\\\' don\\\'t think we were supposed to sympathize with them in any of the scenes during the battle in the climax (Rafiki and Simba/the lionesses kind of needed to defend themselves?), and mentioning [[RuleOfFunny Mister Pig]] incident is crossing the line a bit. Unfortunately, I\\\'m thinking this was written by a [[MisaimedFandom Misaimed Fan]]. :/

At any rate, I don\\\'t want to remove it or move it to the YMMV page without other opinions to back up that move, so does anyone else have any thoughts?

TheWoobie page says: \\\"Please note that TheWoobie is a specific type of character that is supposed to draw the audience\\\'s sympathy. If the character is the ChewToy, ButtMonkey, or is a {{Jerkass}} he is not TheWoobie.\\\"

So why, pray tell, do we have this entry under TheWoobie?

\\\"The hyenas. Exiled in a crapsack territory by Mufasa and then wounded by the king who taught Simba \\\"to respect all the creatures\\\" (it seems that hyenas aren\\\'t even creatures...); abused by Scar during the Be Prepared sequence and later betrayed by their leader that blamed them for all his crimes in front of Simba; killed in numbers by Simba and the lionesses during the climactic battle (and even beaten by the calm, wise Rafiki as well); finally, badly hurt by a furious Pumbaa, only because \\\"they call me Mister Pig!\\\". Not surprising if many fans have a soft spot for them...\\\"

When I cleaned up the page a while back took that down, but it was put back up. The last thing I want to do is start an edit war, but I don\\\'t think this is a proper entry for that trope. Never in all the years I\\\'ve watched The Lion King did I think the hyena\\\'s roles were meant to be sympathetic, nor did I even particularly pity them. Plus, I \\\'\\\'definitely\\\'\\\' don\\\'t think we were supposed to sympathize with them in any of the scenes during the battle in the climax (Rafiki and Simba/the lionesses kind of needed to defend themselves?), and mentioning [[RuleOfFunny Mister Pig]] incident is crossing the line a bit. Unfortunately, I\\\'m thinking that this is a case of [[MisaimedFandom Misaimed Fan]]. :/ Other opinions?

TheWoobie page says: \\\"Please note that TheWoobie is a specific type of character that is supposed to draw the audience\\\'s sympathy. If the character is the ChewToy, ButtMonkey, or is a {{Jerkass}} he is not TheWoobie.\\\"

So why, pray tell, do we have this entry under TheWoobie?

\\\"The hyenas. Exiled in a crapsack territory by Mufasa and then wounded by the king who taught Simba \\\"to respect all the creatures\\\" (it seems that hyenas aren\\\'t even creatures...); abused by Scar during the Be Prepared sequence and later betrayed by their leader that blamed them for all his crimes in front of Simba; killed in numbers by Simba and the lionesses during the climactic battle (and even beaten by the calm, wise Rafiki as well); finally, badly hurt by a furious Pumbaa, only because \\\"they call me Mister Pig!\\\". Not surprising if many fans have a soft spot for them...\\\"

When I cleaned up the page a while back took that down, but it was put back up. The last thing I want to do is start an edit war, but I don\\\'t think this is a proper entry for that trope. Never in all the years I\\\'ve watched The Lion King did I think the hyena\\\'s roles were meant to be sympathetic, nor did I even particularly pity them. Plus, I \\\'\\\'definitely\\\'\\\' don\\\'t think we were supposed to sympathize with them in any of the scenes during the battle in the climax (Rafikki and Simba/the lionesses kind of needed to defend themselves?), and mentioning [[RuleOfFunny Mister Pig]] incident is crossing the line a bit. Unfortunately, I\\\'m thinking that this is a case of [[MisaimedFandom Misaimed Fan]]. :/ Other opinions?

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