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But if we\'re going to play the \
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But if we\\\'re going to play the \\\"As long as some people think so, it should have a YMMV entry\\\" card, that\\\'s a fair point and the reason it has been added back multiple times.
However, I think the entry as currently written is problematic:
* AwardSnub: \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a strong contender for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, but was very unlucky another great animated film was released in the same year. It lost to \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', which broke a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' only received 7 wins and 40 nominations compared to 40 wins and 71 nominations for \\\'\\\'Spider-Verse\\\'\\\'. In most other years, \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the Academy Award.
Issues:
1) It leans very heavily into the presumption that if \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' was not in the running then \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the award. In 2018 there were several equally good challengers. \\\'\\\'Wreck-It Ralph 2\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Isle of Dogs\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\'. To imply that \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was the clear winner, is speculation and should not be part of the example.
2) The wins/nominations statistics should be removed. While it illustrates how \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won more awards and thus won the Oscar, the gap between it and \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' is quite large. \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won over 5 times the awards (40 vs 7) and almost double the nominations (71 vs 40).
These facts show just how much of an underdog \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was to winning the Oscar that year and this undermines the case that an Award Snub even occurred at all.
The example should be honest about the situation in 2018 and simply present itself as a YMMV \\\"I wanted Incredibles 2 to win\\\" entry.
As such, I suggest this wording...
* AwardSnub: Although \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a solid candidate for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, it lost to the equally great \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', breaking a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. It was clearly a case of two strong films being in competition but ThereCanBeOnlyOne and \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' ran a clean sweep of the awards circuit that year.
However, I think the entry as currently written is problematic:
* AwardSnub: \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a strong contender for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, but was very unlucky another great animated film was released in the same year. It lost to \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', which broke a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' only received 7 wins and 40 nominations compared to 40 wins and 71 nominations for \\\'\\\'Spider-Verse\\\'\\\'. In most other years, \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the Academy Award.
Issues:
1) It leans very heavily into the presumption that if \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' was not in the running then \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the award. In 2018 there were several equally good challengers. \\\'\\\'Wreck-It Ralph 2\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Isle of Dogs\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\'. To imply that \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was the clear winner, is speculation and should not be part of the example.
2) The wins/nominations statistics should be removed. While it illustrates how \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won more awards and thus won the Oscar, the gap between it and \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' is quite large. \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won over 5 times the awards (40 vs 7) and almost double the nominations (71 vs 40).
These facts show just how much of an underdog \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was to winning the Oscar that year and this undermines the case that an Award Snub even occurred at all.
The example should be honest about the situation in 2018 and simply present itself as a YMMV \\\"I wanted Incredibles 2 to win\\\" entry.
As such, I suggest this wording...
* AwardSnub: Although \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a solid candidate for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, it lost to the equally great \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', breaking a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. It was clearly a case of two strong films being in competition but ThereCanBeOnlyOne and \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' ran a clean sweep of the awards circuit that year.
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I personally don\'t feel the real life situation warrants an Award Snub entry. It was a case of several good films being in the running and there is only one winner.
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I personally don\\\'t feel the real life situation shows a strong example of an Award Snub. It was a case of several good films being in the running and there is only one winner.
Changed line(s) 5 from:
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But if we\'re going to play the \
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But if we\\\'re going to play the \\\"As long as some people think so, it should have a YMMV entry\\\" card, that\\\'s a fair point and the reason it has been added back multiple times.
However, I think the entry as currently written is problematic:
* AwardSnub: \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a strong contender for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, but was very unlucky another great animated film was released in the same year. It lost to \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', which broke a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' only received 7 wins and 40 nominations compared to 40 wins and 71 nominations for \\\'\\\'Spider-Verse\\\'\\\'. In most other years, \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the Academy Award.
Issues:
1) It leans very heavily into the presumption that if \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' was not in the running then \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the award. In 2018 there were several equally good challengers. \\\'\\\'Wreck-It Ralph 2\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Isle of Dogs\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\'. To imply that \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was the clear winner, is speculation and should not be part of the example.
2) The wins/nominations statistics should be removed. While it illustrates how \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won more awards and thus won the Oscar, the gap between it and \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' is quite large. \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won over 5 times the awards (40 vs 7) and almost double the nominations (71 vs 40).
These facts show just how much of an underdog \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was to winning the Oscar that year and this undermines the case that an Award Snub even occurred at all.
The example should be honest about the situation in 2018 and simply present itself as a YMMV \\\"I wanted Incredibles 2 to win\\\" entry.
As such, I suggest this wording...
* AwardSnub: Although \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a solid candidate for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, it lost to the equally great \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', breaking a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. It was clearly a case of two strong films being in competition but ThereCanBeOnlyOne and \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' ran a clean sweep of the awards circuit that year.
However, I think the entry as currently written is problematic:
* AwardSnub: \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a strong contender for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, but was very unlucky another great animated film was released in the same year. It lost to \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', which broke a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' only received 7 wins and 40 nominations compared to 40 wins and 71 nominations for \\\'\\\'Spider-Verse\\\'\\\'. In most other years, \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the Academy Award.
Issues:
1) It leans very heavily into the presumption that if \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' was not in the running then \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' would have won the award. In 2018 there were several equally good challengers. \\\'\\\'Wreck-It Ralph 2\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Isle of Dogs\\\'\\\', \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\'. To imply that \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was the clear winner, is speculation and should not be part of the example.
2) The wins/nominations statistics should be removed. While it illustrates how \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won more awards and thus won the Oscar, the gap between it and \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' is quite large. \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' won over 5 times the awards (40 vs 7) and almost double the nominations (71 vs 40).
These facts show just how much of an underdog \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was to winning the Oscar that year and this undermines the case that an Award Snub even occurred at all.
The example should be honest about the situation in 2018 and simply present itself as a YMMV \\\"I wanted Incredibles 2 to win\\\" entry.
As such, I suggest this wording...
* AwardSnub: Although \\\'\\\'Incredibles 2\\\'\\\' was a solid candidate for the 2018 Best Animated Feature Academy Award, it lost to the equally great \\\'\\\'WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse\\\'\\\', breaking a six year run (2012-2017) of a Disney/Pixar film winning that category. It was clearly a case of two strong films being in competition but ThereCanBeOnlyOne and \\\'\\\'Spiderverse\\\'\\\' ran a clean sweep of the awards circuit that year.
