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- In Nocturne\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\'s established by Lady in Black each \
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- In Nocturne\\\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\\\'s established by Lady in Black each \\\"world\\\" in the Amala Universe (itself a case of LostInTranslation; the word 宇宙 is better translated as Space or Cosmos in this case) is actually a universe by itself as Aradia came from a universe which has died out due to the failure of starting the Conception. In V, implied to be connected to Nocturne, the Fiends and Demi-fiend also find their way to the game\\\'s universe from \\\"another place, another time\\\" through the system of Amala implied to exist due to the presence of Amala Drums.
- In Devil Summoner continuity, travel between parallel universes are also easier due to the presence of Akarana Corridor. Hell, AlternateSelf shenanigans happen repeatedly in this cosmology.
Meanwhile, what Stephen did (connecting together Messiahs from different universes, each of whom belongs to a different cosmology/continuity with their own laws and cosmic systems) is explicitly done by bending \\\"the 理 of things\\\", according to Japanese script. This means even without the 大いなる part, the 理 is something which exists even across different cosmologies as Stephen \\\'\\\'needs\\\'\\\' to defy it to allow interaction in the Diamond Realm.
Additionally, even in Japanese Stephen mentions each and every one of the Messiahs are born from 理 (translated to the Axiom), not just Nanashi. This is \\\'\\\'despite\\\'\\\' the fact they are from different cosmologies. This means the 理 is, beyond any doubt, something which isn\\\'t exclusive to just IV Apocalyse cosmology.
Because of this, as I mentioned, the fact Stephen makes no distinction between the 理 of things with both 大いなる意志 governing SMT I and II as well as 大いなる意思 of Nocturne would mean we don\\\'t need to, either. We are supposed to trope things based PURELY on what is narrated, implied, and stated by the games and their developers; making a distinction when there is none is speculation and should be kept off the trope pages.
- In Devil Summoner continuity, travel between parallel universes are also easier due to the presence of Akarana Corridor. Hell, AlternateSelf shenanigans happen repeatedly in this cosmology.
Meanwhile, what Stephen did (connecting together Messiahs from different universes, each of whom belongs to a different cosmology/continuity with their own laws and cosmic systems) is explicitly done by bending \\\"the 理 of things\\\", according to Japanese script. This means even without the 大いなる part, the 理 is something which exists even across different cosmologies as Stephen \\\'\\\'needs\\\'\\\' to defy it to allow interaction in the Diamond Realm.
Additionally, even in Japanese Stephen mentions each and every one of the Messiahs are born from 理 (translated to the Axiom), not just Nanashi. This is \\\'\\\'despite\\\'\\\' the fact they are from different cosmologies. This means the 理 is, beyond any doubt, something which isn\\\'t exclusive to just IV Apocalyse cosmology.
Because of this, as I mentioned, the fact Stephen makes no distinction between the 理 of things with both 大いなる意志 governing SMT I and II as well as 大いなる意思 of Nocturne would mean we don\\\'t need to, either. We are supposed to trope things based PURELY on what is narrated, implied, and stated by the games and their developers; making a distinction when there is none is speculation and should be kept off the trope pages.
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- In Nocturne\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\'s established by Lady in Black each \
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- In Nocturne\\\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\\\'s established by Lady in Black each \\\"world\\\" in the Amala Universe (itself a case of LostInTranslation; the word 宇宙 is better translated as Space or Cosmos in this case) is actually a universe by itself as Aradia came from a universe which has died out due to the failure of starting the Conception. In V, implied to be connected to Nocturne, the Fiends and Demi-fiend also find their way to the game\\\'s universe from \\\"another place, another time\\\" through the system of Amala implied to exist due to the presence of Amala Drums.
- In Devil Summoner continuity, travel between parallel universes are also easier due to the presence of Akarana Corridor. Hell, AlternateSelf shenanigans happen repeatedly in this cosmology.
Meanwhile, what Stephen did (connecting together Messiahs from different universes, each of whom belongs to a different cosmology/continuity with their own laws and cosmic systems) is explicitly done by bending \\\"the 理 of things\\\", according to Japanese script. This means even without the 大いなる part, the 理 is something which exists even across different cosmologies as Stephen \\\'\\\'needs\\\'\\\' to defy it to allow interaction in the Diamond Realm.
Additionally, even in Japanese Stephen mentions each and every one of the Messiahs are born from 理 (translated to the Axiom), not just Nanashi. This is \\\'\\\'despite\\\'\\\' the fact they are from different cosmologies. This means the 理 is, beyond any doubt, something which isn\\\'t exclusive to just IV Apocalyse cosmology.
Because of this, as I mentioned, the fact Stephen makes no distinction between the 理 of things with both 大いなる意志 governing SMT I and II as well as 大いなる意思 of Nocturne would mean we don\\\'t need to, either.
- In Devil Summoner continuity, travel between parallel universes are also easier due to the presence of Akarana Corridor. Hell, AlternateSelf shenanigans happen repeatedly in this cosmology.
Meanwhile, what Stephen did (connecting together Messiahs from different universes, each of whom belongs to a different cosmology/continuity with their own laws and cosmic systems) is explicitly done by bending \\\"the 理 of things\\\", according to Japanese script. This means even without the 大いなる part, the 理 is something which exists even across different cosmologies as Stephen \\\'\\\'needs\\\'\\\' to defy it to allow interaction in the Diamond Realm.
Additionally, even in Japanese Stephen mentions each and every one of the Messiahs are born from 理 (translated to the Axiom), not just Nanashi. This is \\\'\\\'despite\\\'\\\' the fact they are from different cosmologies. This means the 理 is, beyond any doubt, something which isn\\\'t exclusive to just IV Apocalyse cosmology.
Because of this, as I mentioned, the fact Stephen makes no distinction between the 理 of things with both 大いなる意志 governing SMT I and II as well as 大いなる意思 of Nocturne would mean we don\\\'t need to, either.
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- In Nocturne\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\'s established by Lady in Black each \
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- In Nocturne\\\'s Amala, demons and gods (even false gods like Aradia) can easily travel between one Vortex World to another; and it\\\'s established by Lady in Black each \\\"world\\\" in the Amala Universe (itself a case of LostInTranslation; the word 宇宙 is better translated as Space or Cosmos in this case) is actually a universe by itself as Aradia came from a universe which has died out due to the failure of starting the Conception. In V, implied to be connected to Nocturne, the Fiends and Demi-fiend also find their way to the game\\\'s universe from \\\"another place, another time\\\" through the system of Amala implied to exist due to the presence of Amala Drums.
- In Devil Summoner continuity, travel between parallel universes are also easier due to the presence of Akarana Corridor. Hell, AlternateSelf shenanigans happen repeatedly in this cosmology.
Meanwhile, what Stephen did (connecting together Messiahs from different universes, each of whom belongs to a different cosmology/continuity with their own laws and cosmic systems) is explicitly done by bending \\\"the 理 of things\\\", according to Japanese script. This means even without the 大いなる part said by Yamai the producer in the interview, the 理 is something which exists even across different cosmologies as Stephen \\\'\\\'needs\\\'\\\' to defy it to allow interaction in the Diamond Realm.
Additionally, even in Japanese Stephen mentions each and every one of the Messiahs are born from 理 (translated to the Axiom), not just Nanashi. This is \\\'\\\'despite\\\'\\\' the fact they are from different cosmologies. This means the 理 is, beyond any doubt, something which isn\\\'t exclusive to just IV Apocalyse cosmology.
Because of this, as I mentioned, the fact Stephen makes no distinction between the 理 of things with both 大いなる意志 governing SMT I and II as well as 大いなる意思 of Nocturne would mean we don\\\'t need to, either.
