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I can see why you\'d be tempted to ban the expression completely due to its coincidental use in natter, but you might as well ban the word \

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I can see why you\\\'d be tempted to ban the expression completely due to its coincidental use in natter, but you might as well ban the word \\\"Actually\\\" as well, since a sentence beginning with the word Actually is usually Natter.

On edit: in any case it appears we\\\'re not far apart on point #2, and you say the status quo is more liberal on the issue than point #1, where I was suggesting an \\\'\\\'orange linked\\\'\\\' This Troper and a fixed redirect to a Rules page explaining when it is not okay to use the first person, so I was trying to come up with a possible solution that would be a reasonable consensus and wouldn\\\'t just make it seem like there was a problem with the term itself.

In any case, I\\\'m not the only person who feels this way, so I\\\'ll leave it at that.

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15th Aug '10 at 06:11:36 PM

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Tolerating usage \'\'is\'\' being neutral on it. It does come off as disdainful toward others, however. What skin off your back is it how someone addresses something in the subjective?

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Tolerating usage \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' being neutral on it. It does come off as disdainful toward others, however. What skin off your back is it how someone addresses something in the subjective?

The other issue is that there are legitimate contexts for using such an expression in main articles, although restricted to idiomatic expressions and subjective trope examples. A campaign to completely suspend disbelief that the Wiki has a single author by removing all indications of multiple authorship, even if the context is not first person, seems a little over the top unless one wants to adopt Wikipedia or term paper manual of style.

I can see why you\\\'d be tempted to ban the expression completely due to its coincidental use in natter, but you might as well ban the word \\\"Actually\\\" as well, since a sentence beginning with the word Actually is usually Natter.

In any case, I\\\'m not the only person who feels this way, so I\\\'ll leave it at that.

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15th Aug '10 at 05:58:09 PM

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You object to people using This Troper to pothole their Contributor pages in parts of the wiki where first person is allowed? That, my friend, is just over the top and certainly not NoJustNo -- a pothole which in and of itself is no different from SoYeah or WaitWhatWhoa. You seem to have tossed out everything I said about readability in paragraph mode wiki subpages without reading.

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You object to people using This Troper to pothole their Contributor pages in parts of the wiki where first person is allowed? That, my friend, is just over the top and certainly not NoJustNo. You seem to have dismissed everything else I said about the various points pro and con with a dismissive NoJustNo which is the sort of reason SoYeah or YouSuck got dumped.

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Tolerating usage is not being neutral on it. It does come off as disdainful toward others, however. What skin off your back is it how someone addresses something in the subjective?

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Tolerating usage \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' being neutral on it. It does come off as disdainful toward others, however. What skin off your back is it how someone addresses something in the subjective?

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