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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think. (i.e. this trope is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis, I see no problem with it, but can take or leave it if necessary.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think. (i.e. this trope is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis, I see no problem with it, but can take or leave it if necessary.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
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to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis, I see no problem with it, but can take or leave it if necessary.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis, I see no problem with it, but can take or leave it if necessary.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
\
to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit. I see no problem with it...
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
\
to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff from the previous text:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the paragraph you wrote, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
\
to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is often what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is typically what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed) and I bet the reason this trope didn\\\'t exist was because people saw Your Days Are Numbered and [[IThoughtItMeant thought it meant]] this, which is typically what the phrase is used for.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' with the consensus to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:green:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:green:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:green:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:green:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:green:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
This is simply the inverse of the trope and is a recent edit.
\\\"[[color:green:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, but I\\\'m not sure what the issue is exactly, unless someone felt the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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to:
\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself (in fact, it\\\'s a subtrope of stock phrases for \\\"hero/villain is about to get his ass kicked\\\" in general, ie. the person is not saying \\\"you \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' die but all in good time\\\", he\\\'s saying IllKillYou right now).
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon (hero is doomed and he knows it).
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope. Do you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, muddling it, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The new first paragraph is pretty broad, so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Or the villain has a guaranteed (false) assumption the hero \\\'\\\'will\\\'\\\' not survive (I think we can\\\'t really distinguish between the two, they both fall under this trope, don\\\'t you think?)
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain [[BondVillainStupidity broadcast his intentions]].]]
This paragraph is example-as-a-thesis and can take or leave it, I think.
I really wish I had had the opportunity to discuss this on the Repair Shop since I think the objections to the definition were centered around the assumption that there was none or that it was a duplicate of an existing trope.
I got \\\'\\\'no problem\\\'\\\' if the consensus was to use the shortened trope name and the catchphrase from a work as a redirect.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain telegraphed his intentions.]]
This is example-as-a-thesis and I can take it or leave it if you feel there is a problem with it.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
[[color:gray:Unless the villain is a {{literal genie}}, these sort of telegraphed threats are not merely {{tempting fate}}; once uttered, it is near-axiomatic proof that the heroes will survive by the rule of MillionToOneChance, if only because the villain telegraphed his intentions.]]
This is example-as-a-thesis and I can take it or leave it if you feel there is a problem with it.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase for \\\'\\\'this\\\'\\\' trope that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since that phrase already counts as both a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
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\\\"Villain telegraphs his death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of both [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of both [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
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\\\"Villain makes telegraphed death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of both [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary distinction, I think, (i.e. this trope is not Prepare To Die) since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of both [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
\
to:
\\\"Villain makes telegraphed death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\" and/or
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary disambig, I think, since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
\\\"Villain insists the hero will not survive.\\\"
Specific stuff:
[[color:gray:\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"]]
This is a necessary disambig, I think, since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
[[color:gray:\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"]]
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"[[color:gray:The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:]]\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one folks seem to have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
\
to:
\\\"The villain makes telegraphed death threats while [[EvilGloating gloating]].\\\"
Specific stuff from above:
\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"
This is a necessary disambig, I think, since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one you and/or some other folks have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
Specific stuff from above:
\\\"When the villain finally gets serious and utters a [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] one liner, see PrepareToDie.\\\"
This is a necessary disambig, I think, since Prepare To Die already is a subtrope of [[PreMortemOneLiner Pre-Mortem]] and PreAssKickingOneLiner and, per the description, really can\\\'t be confused with this without being overly broad itself.
And of course YourDaysAreNumbered is a common variation of the stock phrase that is already the trope namer for a separate phenomenon.
If the person who wanted to cut this entirely may not have realized that the actual tropes named PrepareToDie and YourDaysAreNumbered are entirely opposite ends of the spectrum with this trope falling in the excluded middle.
\\\"The inverse of this trope: \\\"[[ThanatosGambit Soon I will be dead]]... [[TakingYouWithMe and you with me]]!\\\"
These are simple and accurate, I think, inverse of the trope.
\\\"The classic telegraphed villain threat has several variations. It may be uttered shortly after invading All Of Your Base, or while gazing at the hero through a viewfinder while contemplating his demise, or shouted in anger instead of \\\"We Will Meet Again!\\\" Often used in place of Monologuing by a villain Genre Savvy enough to realize that talking is not a free action. May be accompanied by an Evil Laugh (\\\"Ha ha ha ha!!\\\" or just \\\"Ha ha ha\\\" for short). Variations include:\\\"
This paragraph seems to be the one you and/or some other folks have an issue with, I\\\'m not sure what the issue is here, unless you feel the language is too shorthand-ish to properly convey the trope, or perhaps you feel that this paragraph expands the definition beyond the first paragraph, or contracts the definition with too much specificity? The first paragraph is pretty broad so...
The gist is that the family of phrases here all basically mean the same thing, they are all telegraphed threats indicating the villain\\\'s eagerness to articulate that the hero has... well... no chance to survive.
