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Changed line(s) 3 from:
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to:
\"His forces are beaten and apprehended, and after being double-teamed by Blake and Sun, Adam is forced to make a retreat, his forces lost and divided.\"

To something like:

\"While confronting Blake and Sun, his forces are beaten and apprehended; he retreats from Haven, abandoning his men to their fates.\"

Given the controversy generated in the discussion over what value to place on Blake\'s statement that Adam\'s retreat is a plan to pick off Blake and Sun if they chase him, I would suggest removing any reference to why he retreated and instead highlight part of the fandom\'s irritation with the consequences of his retreat (that it magically wraps up his leadership of the White Fang).

I don\'t think it\'s safe to assume the White Fang has been stopped. Volume 1 showed there were three leaders of the White Fang and we\'ve so far only seen two. Also, Volume 5 indicated that the White Fang effectively has different wings of the organisation in different regions, each having different leaders: while Sienna was stated to be the overall leader (although V1 makes me suspicious about that), Adam was cited as being in charge of Vale\'s wing which had radicalised under his leadership.

Sienna was also not really based in Menagerie. She had representatives effectively in charge of Menagerie on her behalf (the Albain brothers).

We can\'t rule out a White Fang faction existing in Atlas, especially given the information we have from both Weiss and Ilia\'s back stories which, combined with Volume 4, indicates a coming conflict, probably in Volumes 6/7 (albeit an internal one this time: Mantle labourers versus Atlas elite).
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
to:
\"His forces are beaten and apprehended, and after being double-teamed by Blake and Sun, Adam is forced to make a retreat, his forces lost and divided.\"

To something like:

\"While confronting Blake and Sun, his forces are beaten and apprehended; he retreats from Haven, abandoning his men to their fates.\"

Given the controversy generated in the discussion over what value to place on Blake\'s statement that Adam\'s retreat is a plan to pick off Blake and Sun if they chase him, I would suggest removing any reference to why he retreated and instead highlight part of the fandom\'s irritation with the consequences of his retreat (that it magically wraps up his leadership of the White Fang).

I don\'t think it\'s safe to assume the White Fang has been defeated. Volume 1 showed there were three leaders of the White Fang and we\'ve so far only seen two. Also, Volume 5 indicated that the White Fang effectively has different wings of the organisation in different regions, each having different leaders: while Sienna was stated to be the overall leader (although V1 makes me suspicious about that), Adam was cited as being in charge of Vale\'s wing which had radicalised under his leadership.

Sienna was also not really based in Menagerie. She had representatives effectively in charge of Menagerie on her behalf (the Albain brothers).

We can\'t rule out a White Fang faction existing in Atlas, especially given the information we have from both Weiss and Ilia\'s back stories which, combined with Volume 4, indicates a coming conflict, probably in Volumes 6/7 (albeit an internal one this time: Mantle labourers versus Atlas elite).
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
to:
\"His forces are beaten and apprehended, and after being double-teamed by Blake and Sun, Adam is forced to make a retreat, his forces lost and divided.\"

To something like:

\"While confronting Blake and Sun, his forces are beaten and apprehended; he retreats from Haven, abandoning his men to their fates.\"

Given the controversy generated in the discussion over what value to place on Blake\'s statement that Adam\'s retreat is a plan to pick off Blake and Sun if they chase him, I would suggest removing any reference to why he retreated and instead highlight part of the fandom\'s irritation with the consequences of his retreat (that it magically wraps up his leadership of the White Fang).
Changed line(s) 3 from:
n
to:
\"His forces are beaten and apprehended, and after being double-teamed by Blake and Sun, Adam is forced to make a retreat, his forces lost and divided.\"

To something like:

\"While confronting Blake and Sun, his forces are beaten and apprehended; he retreats from Haven, abandoning his men to their fates.\"

Given the controversy generated in the discussion over what value to place on Blake\'s statement that Adam\'s retreat is a plan to pick off Blake and Sun if they chase him, I would suggest removing any reference to why he retreated and instead highlight part of the fandom\'s irritation with the consequences of retreat (that it magically wraps up his leadership of the White Fang).
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