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For an unknown reason, Dishonored (VideoGameDishonored) isn\'t linking properly. I\'m following the correct formatting and it\'s linking to VideoGames but for some reason the whole link doesn\'t parse.
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For an unknown reason, Dishonored (VideoGame/Dishonored) isn\\\'t linking properly. I\\\'m following the correct formatting and it\\\'s linking to VideoGames but for some reason the whole link doesn\\\'t parse.
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For an unknown reason, Dishonored (VideoGame/Dishonored) isn\'t linking properly. I\'m following the correct formatting and it\'s linking to VideoGames but for some reason the whole link doesn\'t parse.
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For an unknown reason, Dishonored (VideoGameDishonored) isn\\\'t linking properly. I\\\'m following the correct formatting and it\\\'s linking to VideoGames but for some reason the whole link doesn\\\'t parse.
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I know HateSink isn't just for villains.
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I know HateSink isn\'t just for villains.
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The problem with the trope is that it's an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them, and that intention succeeds: the audience does hate them.
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The problem with the trope is that it\'s an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them, and that intention succeeds: the audience does hate them.
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That's certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. However, given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it's their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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That\'s certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. However, given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it\'s their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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They've gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she's not siding with Salem by choice, that she's trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They've even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling, and made a big song and dance about whatever it is that she knows that made her turn her back on Ozpin, his followers and Yang.
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They\'ve gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she\'s not siding with Salem by choice, that she\'s trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They\'ve even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling, and made a big song and dance about whatever it is that she knows that made her turn her back on Ozpin, his followers and Yang.
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That isn't what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They're trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there's some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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That isn\'t what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They\'re trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there\'s some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we're looking for something that is exclusively an AudienceReaction trope that doesn't rely on creator intention. That isn't HateSink because creator intention matters here, and I don't think Raven qualifies as a result.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we\'re looking for something that is exclusively an AudienceReaction trope that doesn\'t rely on creator intention. That isn\'t HateSink because creator intention matters here.
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Regarding her other negative traits, we've already been troping those, so they're already covered.
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Regarding her other negative traits, we\'ve already been troping those, so they\'re already covered.
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I know HateSink isn't just for villains.
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I know HateSink isn\'t just for villains.
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The problem with the trope is that it's an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them, and that intention succeeds: the audience does hate them.
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The problem with the trope is that it\'s an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them, and that intention succeeds: the audience does hate them.
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That's certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. However, given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it's their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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That\'s certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. However, given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it\'s their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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They've gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she's not siding with Salem by choice, that she's trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They've even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling.
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They\'ve gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she\'s not siding with Salem by choice, that she\'s trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They\'ve even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling, and made a big song and dance about whatever it is that she knows that made her turn her back on Ozpin, his followers and Yang.
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That isn't what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They're trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there's some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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That isn\'t what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They\'re trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there\'s some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we're looking for something that is exclusively an AudienceReaction trope that doesn't rely on creator intention. That isn't HateSink because creator intention matters here, and I don't think Raven qualifies as a result.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we\'re looking for something that is exclusively an AudienceReaction trope that doesn\'t rely on creator intention. That isn\'t HateSink because creator intention matters here, and I don\'t think Raven qualifies as a result.

Regarding her other negative traits, we\'ve already been troping those, so they\'re already covered.
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I know HateSink isn't just for villains.
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I know HateSink isn\'t just for villains.
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The problem with the trope is that it's an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them.
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The problem with the trope is that it\'s an intentional aim by the story writers to make a character so awful that part of their role is clearly for the audience to hate them, and that intention succeeds: the audience does hate them.
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That's certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. Given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it's their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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That\'s certainly the case with Adam and Jacques. However, given the role the creators have put Raven into, I question whether it\'s their intention for Raven to be a HateSink.
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They've gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she's not siding with Salem by choice, that she's trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They've even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling.
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They\'ve gone out of their way to make it clear to us that she\'s not siding with Salem by choice, that she\'s trying to find a way out that avoids Salem getting her hands on the Relic. They\'ve even made her feelings for Yang quite ambiguous and therefore puzzling.
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That isn't what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They're trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there's some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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That isn\'t what I would expect from a creator who is writing a HateSink character. They\'re trying too hard to make the audience aware that her worst actions are occurring under duress and that there\'s some kind of secret surrounding her historic actions that still needs to be revealed.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we're looking for an AudienceReaction trope there, which isn't HateSink.
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Now, as to how the fandom actually views and the extent to which the fandom dislikes her, we\'re looking for something that is exclusively an AudienceReaction trope that doesn\'t rely on creator intention. That isn\'t HateSink because creator intention matters here, and I don\'t think Raven qualifies as a result.
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