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*** That it doesn\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \'\'heightens\'\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \
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*** That it doesn\\\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \\\'\\\'heightens\\\'\\\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\\\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \\\"All too often, it\\\'s a case of the DisposableWoman becoming the DistressedDamsel (or even getting StuffedIntoTheFridge) to [[ItsPersonal motivate the male vigilante]]\\\" - and that\\\'s exactly what happens. It sets Neville and Co. off on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, and then, a man having solved it for her, it never comes up again. At least the much more graphic, several-chapter-long rape and torture of Hermione in \\\'\\\'Slaugh\\\'\\\' is the main point of the story, though that fits under [[{{Gorn}} other]] [[BloodierAndGorier tropes]].
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
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*** That it doesn\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \'\'heightens\'\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \
to:
*** That it doesn\\\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \\\'\\\'heightens\\\'\\\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\\\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \\\"All too often, it\\\'s a case of the DisposableWoman becoming the DistressedDamsel (or even getting StuffedIntoTheFridge) to [[ItsPersonal motivate the male vigilante]]\\\" - and that\\\'s exactly what happens. It sets Neville and Co. off on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, and then, a man having solved it for her, it never comes up again. At least the much more graphic, several-chapter-long rape and torture of Hermione in \\\'\\\'Slaugh\\\'\\\' is the main point of the story, though that fits under [[{{Gorn}} other]] [[BloodierAndGorier tropes]].
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram as he tells them to.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram as he tells them to.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
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*** That it doesn\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \'\'heightens\'\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \
to:
*** That it doesn\\\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \\\'\\\'heightens\\\'\\\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\\\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \\\"All too often, it\\\'s a case of the DisposableWoman becoming the DistressedDamsel (or even getting StuffedIntoTheFridge) to [[ItsPersonal motivate the male vigilante]]\\\" - and that\\\'s exactly what happens. It sets Neville and Co. off on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, and then, a man having solved it for her, it never comes up again. At least the much more graphic, several-chapter-long rape and torture of Hermione in \\\'\\\'Slaugh\\\'\\\' is the main point of the story, though that fits under [[{{Gorn}} other]] [[BloodierAndGorier tropes]].
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and then they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and then they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
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*** That it doesn\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \'\'heightens\'\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \
to:
*** That it doesn\\\'t play a major role in the rest of the story \\\'\\\'heightens\\\'\\\' its RapeAsDrama credentials. Why is it in there? It serves no purpose in the story, hence, it\\\'s added solely for dramatic impact. Hell, the description of RapeAsDrama says \\\"All too often, it\\\'s a case of the DisposableWoman becoming the DistressedDamsel (or even getting StuffedIntoTheFridge) to [[ItsPersonal motivate the male vigilante]]\\\" - and that\\\'s exactly what happens. It sets Neville and Co. off on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, and then, a man having solved it for her, it never comes up again. At least the much more graphic, several-chapter-long rape and torture of Hermione in \\\'\\\'Slaugh\\\'\\\' is the main point of the story, though that fits under [[{{Gorn}} other]] [[BloodierAndGorier tropes]].
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and then they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
* HollywoodHomely: In the books, both Neville and Hannah are a bit pudgy. In DAYD, Hannah\\\'s supermodel hotness was concealed by the school robes, which made her - but none of the other girls - look fat, and Neville replaces all of his fat with muscle, helped by him being [[{{Gorn}} starved for weeks as part of a punishment]].
* [[JerkSue Jerk Sue]]/[[MartyStu Marty Stu]]: YourMileageMayVary, but Neville at least has many aspects of these. Some of the things he does include:
** Both he and Colin think that when Colin and Dennis Creevey go home for the holidays, they\\\'ll find their parents murdered, but [[IdiotBall he doesn\\\'t bother to stop them or give them any protection]]. After they go home and find their parents murdered, the Creeveys go on the run, and end up hiding at their muggle friend\\\'s house. Neville and Co. go to rescue them, Colin is bleeding to death from being splinched, but they escape, with the muggle helping as best he can as Death Eaters begin breaking in. Despite him being \\\'\\\'right there next to them\\\'\\\', they don\\\'t bother to take said muggle with them. Later, as Colin recovers from nearly dying, Neville berates him for having nearly died while being part of Neville\\\'s grand cunning plan, to the point that Colin breaks down in tears.
*** Neville is doped to the eyeballs with Percy\\\'s old Calming Draught when he does that, to the extent that his emotions are completely shut down. As for the Muggle, even if they had the time to think of it (Hannah almost did) and were willing to take the unprecedented risk (no one knows if Muggles \\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\' be Side-Along Apparated or if they\\\'d be Splinched to death), he \\\'\\\'breaks away from the group\\\'\\\' to turn on his stereos to cover their escape, and then they\\\'re out of time to do anything but just scram.
** Is the personal target for [[CharacterDerailment Snape\\\'s murder schemes]], even while his grand tactical genius means that he\\\'s made it that \\\'\\\'noone can ever, under any circumstances, find out or tell anyone who\\\'s in Dumbledore\\\'s Army\\\'\\\' using a NewPowersAsThePlotDemands version of the Fidelius charm.
** [[CharacterDerailment Becomes instantly self-confident,]] delivering a speech at the start that wins everyone over to the DA instantly.
** And if that\\\'s not bad enough, in [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475647/1/Too_Little_Too_Late this one-shot]], Ginny \\\'\\\'[[ShillingTheWesley outright states]]\\\'\\\' that Harry Potter wasn\\\'t a hero, and she made a mistake choosing him over the true hero, Neville Longbottom.
* AbuseIsOkayWhenItIsFemaleOnMale: Hannah Abbot (Neville\\\'s future wife) tries to set him on fire and then throws several potted plants at him (one of which suffocates him to unconsciousness, while she does nothing to stop it). All this because of a bad case of PoorCommunicationKills leading her to believe he was making out with Ginny--even though Hannah and Neville aren\\\'t even \\\'\\\'dating\\\'\\\'. [[MoralDissonance This is supposed to be justified by the \\\"fact\\\" that]] [[UnfortunateImplications girls are just crazy like that.]]
* CriticalResearchFailure: On TWO OCCASIONS, Thanfiction [[HurtComfortFic has rape victims, shortly after their rape, comforted by sexualised acts initiated by men]]. It\\\'s a throwaway line in DAYD itself, where, just after her rape is avenged [[hottip:* :without consulting or involving her, and ignoring her fears about her family]] by the men, [[spoiler:Lavender]] is found having sex with her boyfriend. The one shot \\\'\\\'[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5475729/1/More_Realer More Realer]]\\\'\\\' is worse: In DAYD\\\'s sequel, \\\'\\\'Sluagh\\\'\\\', [[spoiler: Hermione]] spends about 5 chapters being tortured and raped, [[BloodierAndGorier described in graphic detail]], finally setting herself on fire to escape (she got better). In the one-shot, [[spoiler: Ron]] basically forces himself on her, and she accepts this, because up to that point, he\\\'d been patient about her request not to have sex. She\\\'s flinching away, but he just keeps massaging her shoulders, applying sensual kisses, and all sorts of things, all without her consent. Ugh!
Even if you had a case about small parts of the language there, it\\\'s not vandalism, and there\\\'s no way you should be deleting it all and attacking the people who added it \\\'\\\'on the main page itself\\\'\\\'
