Discussion History Trivia / MyDearColdBloodedKing

So I noticed that there was a good deal of divisiveness surrounding Ryusaki that I decided to mark him as a base-breaking character. That being said, if anyone could back me up on that I would really appreciate it.

So I noticed that there was a good deal of divisiveness surrounding Ryusaki that I decided to mark him as a base-breaking character. That being said, if anyone could back me up on that I would really appreciate it.

So I noticed that there was a good deal of divisiveness surrounding Ryusaki that I decided to mark him as a base-breaking character. At the moment, I still think that is true, but if anyone could back me up on that I would really appreciate it.

So I noticed that there was a good deal of divisiveness surrounding Ryusaki that I decided to mark him as a base-breaking character. At the moment, I still think that is true, but if anyone could back me up on that I would really appreciate it.

Fine, you want to do it this way, then I\'ll bite.

[[\"Akane acts like she knows how to cook when she clearly doesn\'t and assumes people are just being rude when they justifiably don\'t like her cooking.\"
This is not true. Akane does in fact know she\'s not a good cook. Like, she\'s flat out called food she\'s perpared \"terrible.\"
Also, even if Akane didn\'t know she was a good cook she still wouldn\'t apply to this trope. Akane does not think she\'s a master chef. She doesn\'t try and give Kasumi cooking tips. She won\'t tell Ukyo she\'s cooking wrong. She does nothing of the sort.]]

She ONLY thought her food tastes terrible if she herself tasted it first. It still applies because she still tries to force it on other people to eat because she says so. Akane would even try to “revise” a recipe simply because she “thought it looked boring”, as seen in the Nodoka cooking ep.

Ranma: “Er…. Is this one of your mom’s secret recipies?”
Akane: “Yeah, but it looked a bit boring at first glance, so I livened it up a little! Go on, have some! …. WELL ARE YOU GONNA EAT IT OR NOT!?”
(Ranma, Genma, and Soun look half dead after a bite)
Akane: “Well? Do you like it?”

Then there was her hypocritical criticism of Ranma-chan preparing the food.

Akane: “So you’re good with a knife. Wow, big deal! What matters the most is taste!”

Really?

[[\"She also tends to act like she\'s always right and everyone else is always wrong,\"
No she does not. Like, flat out.
Akane often disbeleives Ranma yes, but that\'s because Ranma is a liar.
\"most notably how she would refuse to hear Ranma\'s side of the story due to her adamantly believing he\'s a pervert \"
Akane does not \"adamantly beleive he\'s a pervert.\" She called him pervert early on after he saw her naked, and Fanon made it her catch phrase.
\"thinking he invited Shampoo in his bed when she snuck in hits Ranma when he was surprised to see Ukyo in his bed\"
This is not Know-Nothing Know-It-All Either. Ranma does not do anything to try and get rid of Shampoo or Ukyo, and in fact has shown he likes their attention so why shouldn\'t Akane get mad at him when they try and get into compromising positions? And she doesn\'t even get seriously mad at him. There\'s, like, a panel slapstick gag before the story moves on.]]

That’s because most of the time, Akane never gives Ranma a chance to react to said compromising situations. For the first part, Ranma didn’t even KNOW Shampoo was next to him, and what does Akane do? She splashes him, knowing that Shampoo will try to kill her. In the aftermath, she refuses to hear Ranma’s side of the story because she adamantly believes what she saw was right and that he’s going to lie about it.

The second one with Ukyou, she hits Ranma because she “knows what he was planning”, judging from the dialogue afterward.

Ranma: “I DIDN’T EVEN DO ANYTHING!”
Akane: “BUT YOU WERE GOING TO!”


[[\"always siding with Ryoga when he starts a fight with Ranma\"
This is not true at all.
Here\'s a big example of the fanon in these trope examples. It\'s the old \"stop picking on Ryoga\" fanon. Something Akane does once at the start of the Breaking Point arc... when Ranma was picking on Ryoga.
Akane by and large stays out of the fights between Ranma and Ryoga. Seeing it as a \"boys will be boys\" rivalry.]]

Hello? Ryoga was the one who started that fight when he finally ran into Ranma, who was on an errand for Dr. Tofu, after being a week late for his intended bout.

He does it again in the alliance of Ryoga and Mousse ep, then the dialogue afterwards.

Akane: “Ranma, stop. Fighting with Ryoga is wrong.”
Ranma: “Then blame him! He’s the one who started it!”
Akane: “Why should I? I know it must be your fault, it’s ALWAYS your fault.”
Ranma: “YOU ARE SO UNCUTE!”

[[This is, again, not something she does but even if she did it would not be this trope.
\"actually believing Ranma is sick in mind of wanting to steal girls\' underwear when he was trying to locate the Japanese Spring of Drowned Man under the girls\' locker room\"
You mean when he was trying to sneak into the girls locker room? While there were girls changing in it? Of course Akane had the right to get mad at Ranma! Not only that but Ranma didn\'t even try to explain anything! Also, Ranma could have just, you know, waited for school to end.
This is Ranma doing something stupid and getting rightfully castigated for it.
If Akane had loudly proclaimed that she knew that Ranma was going to try and sneak into the girls locker room to the girls and she knew his every secret awful plan but Ranma wasn\'t actually planning on sneaking into the girls locker room then maybe this trope would apply. But, again, that\'s not what happened.]]

I’ll only let go on should have waited, but that’s it. Everything else, of course he tried to explain himself, but she NEVER believes him anyway. Once he DID manage to explain, guess what? She didn’t believe him because she “knows he was there to steal underwear”.
Plus, Ryoga sets Ranma up to “protect Akane” (while making himself look good in her view). She also tends to believe Ryoga because she “knows” he would never mislead her.



[[\"interfering with Ranma in the watermelon/snowman race because she thinks Ranma was trying to win a date with Shampoo when he was trying to get back the Phoenix Pill;\"
Akane didn\'t know that Cologne would give Ranma the Phoenix Pill if he won. All Akane knew is that Ranma entered a race where the prize was a date with Shampoo. Also everything happens too fast for anything to even be explained.
Again, this is not Akane not knowing anything but proclaiming herself as knowing the answer anyways. This is her not having the full knowlege of an event and acting upon what knowlege she had.]]

That’s EXACTLY what being a know-nothing-know-it-all is. The fact she acts like she needs no further explanation because she apparently “knows a person well” without bothering to get her facts straight.

Let me add another example: The Bake-Neko ep. Akane attacked Ranma in his sleep, accusing him of “dressing up as a cat and scaring her”. Has she already forgotten that Ranma has a crippling fear of cats because of his Neko Ken training? How the hell could he possibly dress as his biggest fear?

Backing up to the figure-skating arc, Akane unsympathetically criticizes Ranma for getting kissed by Mikado for leaving himself open then arrogantly saying she could’ve done better when Ranma challenged her, just before he catches her wide open herself.

[[\"seems to believe Ryoga never visited Jusenkyo before despite knowing about his directionally-challenged trait that took him to a lot of places even outside Japan; etc.\"
Why would she? Jusenkyo is a single tiny place in the middle of the Chinese wildernsess. Him having no sense of direction whatsoever makes it even more unlikely that he\'d end up at that one place. Heck, except for Ranma, Genma, and Ryoga everybody in the cast who ends up cursed at Jusenkyo lives near it.
And Ryoga only ends up outside of Japan twice, once before the series starts when he\'s chasing down Ranma and once at the end when he goes with Ranma and Mousse to China. It\'s fanon that Ryoga\'s a world traveler, but he really just wanders Japan mostly.
Plus, not knowing a secret that people conspire to keep from her is in no way shape or form the Know Nothing No It All trope. And this final example seigues nicely into the next inncorrect trope you added to her page.]]

He still tends to end up in places purely by accident. In the frog episode, Cologne mentioned the frog hermit was going after Jusenkyo victims. She saw the (fake) frogs of Genma, Shampoo, and Ryoga, and actually wondered why Ryoga is among the frog hermit’s targets before starting to claim Ryoga “never went to Jusenkyo before”.

[[\" Master of Delusion: Beats this trope into the ground when Ryōga/P-chan is concerned. Despite the overwhelming evidence that\'s come her way — including Ryōga transforming and \"disappearing\" right beside her — she\'s never put it together that they are the same person.\"
First off, what chapter does this happen?]]

If you must know, the Tunnel of Lost Love ep where Ryoga ran across the water with Akane in his arms. When he nears the edge, he accidentally trips and falls into the water as Akane is dropped on land. P-chan comes up, and instead says, “It’s P-chan!” with P-chan sweatdropping on how lucky he was she didn’t somehow find out. Yo, are you not wondering in the slightest where Ryoga disappeared to and P-chan suddenly comes up as soon as he’s gone?

[[Second off, Akane isn\'t the only person to not notice a Jusenkyo curse change happening close by. It\'s used as a recurring gag with plenty of other people for a sudden change and them not noticing. People haven\'t noticed right away that Ranma suddenly loses a foot in height and grows breasts until they pull his shirt open.]]

The only reason others don’t notice is because they’re stupid (the Kuno siblings) and they don’t know a thing about Jusenkyo curses.

That moron Asuza figured out Ryoga and her “Darling Charlotte” were one and the same due to the collar she saw on both of them, and she doesn’t know a thing about Jusenkyo or its curses, so what’s Akane’s excuse?

[[\"In the Mark of a God arc, she noticed the mark drawn on both Ryōga and her pet, and concluded that \"the same person must have drawn on both of them!\"
Occam\'s Razor. \"Somebody doodled on P-chan\" is the much simpler explanation than \"My friend has been lying to me and is a shapeshifter pretending to be my pet and my fiance is in on it.\" Not to mention that, perhaps, Akane doesn\'t think that her friend is capable of such a thing?]]

Again, Master of Delusion. It means someone has apparently picked up on another person’s secret, then at the last minute thinks of something else entirely.

[[Like, this is actually really gross. Akane is the victim here. Ryoga is taking advantage of her and Ranma is allowing it to happen. Yet there are people who try and say she\'s \"stupid\" for being lied to. For being groped and leered at. This is, like, the worst thing Ryoga does and is basically glossed over and ignored once he makes his Heel–Face Turn.]]

He doesn’t “allow it to happen”. Ranma tries to make sure he doesn’t try anything. Ranma’s only fault was making that stupid honor pledge not to tell Ryoga’s secret because he felt responsible for what happened to him.

[[\"She also never picks up the subtle hints when Ranma would taunt Ryoga by calling him P-chan\"
Ranma does not drop \"subtle hints.\" He will, at most, taunt Ryoga early on about it. If Ranma really wanted to tell Akane Ryoga is P-chan all he had to do was \'tell her\'... like he almost did twice in the series before getting interuppted.]]

Again, because of his dumb “honor promise” Ranma was unable to do that. And again, Master of Delusion because Ranma almost spilled it when he thought Akane bathed P-chan in hot water and found out, until he heard the whole story. P-chan was panicking and struggling to get out of Akane’s grip, then desperately drank up the hot water before it could hit him. Her conclusion? “He must’ve been thirsty!”

[[\"Misplaced Retribution: She constantly uses Ranma as a whipping boy whenever she gets angry, even when she\'s aware Ranma had nothing to do with it.\"
Do you know what slapstick is? When Akane hits Ranma, it\'s slapstick. It\'s not serious, it\'s the equivalant of her glaring at him. Or at most, a Dope Slap. This is not Ranma being used as a \"whipping boy\" this is her expressing annoyance at him before the story moves on and both she and Ranma forget about it.
Like when Ranma is learning the Umisenken. He asks Akane for help, Akane hits him on the head with a cartoon hammer and tells him not to sneak into his room, and then the very next panel asks what he needs her to do and she\'ll do anything to help him.
In the context of Ranma 1/2, Akane\'s actions are perfectly normal and done by everybody in the cast.
Nabiki takes compromising pictures of her and sells them, particularly to Kuno? Rebuke Nabiki, but then beat Ranma up.\"
Akane didn\'t beat Ranma up for Nabiki\'s actions. She beat Ranma up because because he said, and I quote: \"As if anybody\'s want pictures of a dorky girl anyway! I don\'t know how you\'ll ever find a husband. Now me on the other hand...\"
I don\'t know about you but I think that\'s a fairly legit thing for her to be mad at him for.]]

Then it’s a case of The Unfairer Sex. “Everything she does is perfectly fine and justified. Ranma is wrong in insulting her.”

Plus, in the frog episode, she punts out Ranma and Mousse from the bathroom because she turned and saw them naked, even though SHE was the one who barged in on THEM.


[[\"Shampoo engages in criminal trespass to sneak or simply steam-roll her way into the Tendo household for the sake of causing mischief? Beat Ranma up.\"
First off, this only happens early on in the series. Shampoo\'s only sneaks into the Tendo household early on, before she\'s established into the story. Later on her schemes take place outside the Tendo home and when she does visit it\'s usually for other reasons like warning him about Pink and Link or when Mousse gets a power up. And, again, it\'s not \"beat Ranma up\" it\'s \"slapstick joke panel expressing her annoyance.\"]]

It was worse than that. She ALLOWS Shampoo to try and KILL Ranma-chan after splashing him.

[[\"Genma sells off Ranma\'s hand in marriage to another fiance who then comes calling? Beat Ranma up.\"
Nope!
Akane hits Genma when he calls Ukyo Ranma\'s fiancee. Then as Genma tells the story, all the other girls butAkane (and including Ukyo) beat Ranma and Genma up over it. Akane then gets a little upset when Ranma calls Ukyo \"cute\" but only tries to kick him after he calls her \"uncute.\"
Akane is, in fact, the only girl who didn\'t beat Ranma up when another fiancee showed up. This includes the other fiancee!]]

Ukyou only hit Ranma and Genma with the balance beam, but didn’t join in the gang up as she and Ranma snuck away in the carnage. Akane’s inaction is just as bad if not worse because, in her own words, thinks “he probably deserves it anyway.” ALLOWING him to get beat up by others when she could’ve stopped it is practically the same thing.

\"Her own father hits her on the head with a mallet to drag her to the altar for a shot-gun wedding? Punch Ranma through the ceiling!\"
Akane didn\'t punt Ranma through the roof for that. She punted her through the roof for calling her fat afterwords.
[[\"Never My Fault: She doesn\'t always take responsibility for what goes wrong, and will recurrently assume that it is Ranma\'s fault.\"
It usually is Ranma\'s fault. The only time I can think of where it\'s Akane\'s fault is...
\"Such as when breaking the balcony which endangered Nabiki, she is upset that Ranma saved Nabiki instead of herself, which caused a sprained ankle. \"
Akane being upset at Ranma for helping out Nabiki is, in fact, a time when she\'s in the wrong. She had been having a serious argument with Nabiki, with Ranma joining in with mocking her. So when Ranma helps Nabiki instead of her she overracts thanks to already being super upset at Nabiki.
It\'s notable that this arc, with Akane in the wrong, does in fact end with Akane and Ranma apologizing and making up over it. Akane admits she was wrong to fight with Nabiki and put Ranma in the middle of it.
Doesn\'t apply to Never My Fault unless every arugment people have ever applies to this trope]]

Yet Akane gets angry at the supposed “closeness” Ranma and Nabiki were having when she really has no right to considering she passed the engagement off to Nabiki.

[[\" She also off-on thinks that the people who dislike her cooking are just being rude.\"
Not really? Like, a handful of times she\'ll try and get people to try something she\'s cooked but most of the time when it comes to Ranma he is, in fact, rude about it.]]

Not just him. Genma and Happosai do that, too. Happosai actually cried in pain when he wolfed down Akane’s cookies before saying “why didn’t you tell me they weren’t meant for human consumption!?”

Soun, Nabiki, and even Kasumi are more subtle about it. Soun and Nabiki looked downright horrified when Nodoka invites Akane to help her with the cooking.

[[\"She will often admit to herself when she\'s gone too far and hurt Ranma for thing that weren\'t his fault, but she won\'t actually say it out loud.\"
This directly contridts the trope it\'s an example of. If Akane admits even to herself that something is her fault then it Never My Fault does not apply. Never My Fault is about people who refuse to aknowlege their own blame.]]

SOME.

[[\"Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: She tends to make things much more difficult than necessary for Ranma due to how she wrongfully assumes he\'s being the pervert she believes him to be. \"
First off, as I mentioned, Akane does not reguarly assume Ranma is a pervert. There are times when Ranma is looking perverted, but she does not call him one or think he\'s one with any regularity.
I already covered the Watermellon race mostly. But it also doesn\'t apply to this trope either because Akane trying to do the right thing did not make things worse. Concidering that Shampoo herself tried to stop Akane from winning, it\'s actually implied that if Akane had won she would have gotten the Phoenix Pill herself (Which she would have immediately given to Ranma.)
\"Interfering with Ranma\'s fight against Hinako because she thought he was trying to molest her when he was actually trying to get her pressure points to seal away Hinako\'s ki-draining ability. He even shows her the chart, but instead she wrongfully assumes he\'s trying to molest Hinako.\"
Akane didn\'t actually \'\'see\' the chart. Ranma\'s attempting to explain it to Akane, and he phrases the first part in the worst possible way that he\'s \"only going after Miss Hinako.\" Akane hears this and immediately goes into a Heroic B.S.O.D.. She turns away from him and doesn\'t actually see the chart. Then when she\'s crying and asks Ranma why he\'s after Miss Hinako, he again says the dumbest thing possible and says \"sure you have a small chest\".]]

Correction: Shampoo was trying to stop anyone other than Ranma from winning. Plus, there’s no way Akane would’ve gotten past Cologne anyway since she’s too skilled and Cologne would have no reason not to beat her. Ranma at the time was the only one who had a chance of beating Cologne, and if Akane did eliminate Ranma, then Cologne would’ve steamrolled everyone else. What she almost could’ve done would be akin to making extinct the natural predator of an invasive species, causing said species to overrun everything.

And again, doesn’t change the fact Akane STILL interfered with Ranma DURING the fight against Hinako.

[[It\'s Poor Communication Kills, not Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!.
\"Following Ryoga\'s instruction to tell him she hates him in order to learn the Ultimate Shishi Hokodan, which he uses on Ranma in the next fight\"
This is Akane yet again assuming that Occam\'s Razor applies. Which, admitedly, is a flaw to have in this comic\'s universe. She didn\'t really get why Ryoga was asking him to tell her she hated him, and was clearly confused by his reaction afterwords since her saying something he asked her to say shouldn\'t effect him that much.
\"Then she makes it worse in her attempt to patch it up by saying to Ryoga \"Let\'s be friends forever!\", which only makes him more depressed as he took it as being friend-zoned\"
You know, this bit actually does apply to the Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! trope. Since Akane is Oblvious To Loveshe doesn\'t realize that trying to appeal to Ryoga by using her friendship with him is going to backfire, and it does hilariously.]]

And there you go. Plus, she knew how the technique worked, making it worse.

One more thing I\'d like to add. In the Moxibustion arc, Akane stupidly ties up Ranma and dumps him in the storage shed in order to \"protect him\" since he\'s unable to fight back. Not once did she ever consider just MAYBE one of Ranma\'s enemies might find him and attack him while he was tied and helpless. Turned out to be true when Gosunkugi finds him and shoves him out where the others were waiting for him. At least Gosunkugi untied Ranma first before throwing him to the dogs.

So there.