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I concede you had a point about what I wrote I'd like to point out a few things.
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I concede you had a point about what I wrote I\'d like to point out a few things.
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As stated earlier, there's a difference between using religious symbolism and directly lifting titles from real-life religions (the writers did the latter); which also begs the question of what made the writers choose those particular religions, but I won't go into that (I may have scored a point when I commented what if it was Judaism and/or Islam lifted from rather than Christianity and Gnosticism. Answer this question please; what do you think the reaction would've been if they'd lifted clergy titles from Judaism or Islam?). Second, please define a sizable part of the fanbase, and how much of the fanbase has to share a view before it will be included on the YMMV page. Third, there was more nuance to the Collectors than the kett... the Collector General's last scene at the end of the suicide mission implied it had a sense of autonomy and emotional capacity which regretted what it was (and later games and the Multiplayer DLC expanded on this). By comparison, every kett in the game seems to be AlwaysChaoticEvil (though the Archon was worse than the others) and we have yet to see a good kett; at least the Collectors had the excuses of indoctrination, VillainOverride and CyberneticsEatYourSoul.
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As stated earlier, there\'s a difference between using religious symbolism and directly lifting titles from real-life religions (the writers did the latter); which also begs the question of what made the writers choose those particular religions, but I won\'t go into that (I may have scored a point when I commented what if it was Judaism and/or Islam lifted from rather than Christianity and Gnosticism. Answer this question please; what do you think the reaction would\'ve been if they\'d lifted clergy titles from Judaism or Islam?). Second, please define a sizable part of the fanbase, and how much of the fanbase has to share a view before it will be included on the YMMV page. The Applicability trope means something that can be applied to a range of issues, which I think describes the kett well; being a group based on extremist collectivism that can, and has, been applied to several groups, beliefs and ideologies in real-life. Third, there was more nuance to the Collectors than the kett... the Collector General\'s last scene at the end of the suicide mission implied it had a sense of autonomy and emotional capacity which regretted what it was (and later games and the Multiplayer DLC expanded on this). By comparison, every kett in the game seems to be AlwaysChaoticEvil (though the Archon was worse than the others) and we have yet to see a good kett; at least the Collectors had the excuses of indoctrination, VillainOverride and CyberneticsEatYourSoul.
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Also, keep in mind that nearly everything in YMMV is someone's personal grievances. It just seems to be a question of whether those grievances are shared by a lot of people or a few. Choosing only the grievances shared by a large amount of people, and ignoring those that aren't, sounds like the Appeal to Popularity Fallacy; I'm not saying it is I'm just saying keep that in mind. Regardless, since I can't pinpoint a direct agenda on the part of the writers and the argument I made, while plausible, isn't airtight I'll let it rest.
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Also, keep in mind that nearly everything in YMMV is someone\'s personal grievances. It just seems to be a question of whether those grievances are shared by a lot of people or a few. Choosing only the grievances shared by a large amount of people, and ignoring those that aren\'t, sounds like the Appeal to Popularity Fallacy; I\'m not saying it is I\'m just saying keep that in mind. Regardless, since I can\'t pinpoint a direct agenda on the part of the writers and the argument I made, while plausible, isn\'t airtight I\'ll let it rest.
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I concede you had a point about what I wrote I'd like to point out a few things.
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I concede you had a point about what I wrote I\'d like to point out a few things.
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As stated earlier, there's a difference between using religious symbolism and directly lifting titles from real-life religions (the writers did the latter); which also begs the question of what made the writers choose those particular religions, but I won't go into that (I may have scored a point when I commented what if it was Judaism and/or Islam lifted from rather than Christianity and Gnosticism). Second, please define a sizable part of the fanbase, and how much of the fanbase has to share a view before it will be included on the YMMV page. Third, there was more nuance to the Collectors than the kett... the Collector General's last scene at the end of the suicide mission implied it had a sense of autonomy and emotional capacity which regretted what it was (and later games and the Multiplayer DLC expanded on this). By comparison, every kett in the game seems to be AlwaysChaoticEvil (though the Archon was worse than the others) and we have yet to see a good kett; at least the Collectors had the excuses of indoctrination, VillainOverride and CyberneticsEatYourSoul.
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As stated earlier, there\'s a difference between using religious symbolism and directly lifting titles from real-life religions (the writers did the latter); which also begs the question of what made the writers choose those particular religions, but I won\'t go into that (I may have scored a point when I commented what if it was Judaism and/or Islam lifted from rather than Christianity and Gnosticism. Answer this question please; what do you think the reaction would\'ve been if they\'d lifted clergy titles from Judaism or Islam?). Second, please define a sizable part of the fanbase, and how much of the fanbase has to share a view before it will be included on the YMMV page. Third, there was more nuance to the Collectors than the kett... the Collector General\'s last scene at the end of the suicide mission implied it had a sense of autonomy and emotional capacity which regretted what it was (and later games and the Multiplayer DLC expanded on this). By comparison, every kett in the game seems to be AlwaysChaoticEvil (though the Archon was worse than the others) and we have yet to see a good kett; at least the Collectors had the excuses of indoctrination, VillainOverride and CyberneticsEatYourSoul.
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Also, keep in mind that nearly everything in YMMV is someone's personal grievances. It just seems to be a question of whether those grievances are shared by a lot of people or a few. Choosing only the grievances shared by a large amount of people, and ignoring those that aren't, sounds like the Appeal to Popularity Fallacy; I'm not saying it is I'm just saying keep that in mind. Regardless, since I can't pinpoint a direct agenda on the part of the writers and the argument I made, while plausible, isn't airtight I'll let it rest.
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Also, keep in mind that nearly everything in YMMV is someone\'s personal grievances. It just seems to be a question of whether those grievances are shared by a lot of people or a few. Choosing only the grievances shared by a large amount of people, and ignoring those that aren\'t, sounds like the Appeal to Popularity Fallacy; I\'m not saying it is I\'m just saying keep that in mind. Regardless, since I can\'t pinpoint a direct agenda on the part of the writers and the argument I made, while plausible, isn\'t airtight I\'ll let it rest.
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