It's a Gundam thread!

It's not even fanaticism. It's the essential abrasion of military occupation, being ruled by people who are unaccountable to you, don't particularly like or care about you, and like to solve their problems by applying extreme violence until the problem goes away. Vietnam had the Phoenix Program and Ngo Dinh Diem's concentration camps, Afghanistan 1 had the KGB and KHAD, and Afghanistan 2 has the warlords and Zero Units. The Titans gave spacenoids every reason to side with Zeon until the end of time, especially since they ended up as literally the only faction fighting for spacenoid rights after the AEUG and Karaba either died or joined Titans 2: We Promise We Won't Try To Genocide You This Time, Honest.

I mean, yeah, we as the audience know that Londo Bell is made up of decent people trying to do good, but that doesn't change the fact that they no longer offer anything useful or constructive to the half of humanity that lives in space except for murdering the occasional Newtype maniac who tries to blow up the solar system. They're certainly not a check against the corrupt, oppressive, and parasitic Earth-supremacist government they work for. If you want to put food on your table and get the Federation off your back, Zeon is literally your only option, and as long as the Titan colony gassings exist in living memory, spacenoids are going to want someone who can offer them some protection in case Londo Bell goes as rabid as its predecessor organisation.

... Cept the Zeon SUCK at their Job cause all they ever do is lose and end up slaughtering their fellow spacenoids cause They have no concept of Collateral damage

Honestly the Smartest thing the other Sides could do was form their own alliance or hire those Jovian nutcases

D'you reckon that, if the Titans never were a thing, Zeon wouldn't have been such a problem post-OYW?

That definitely seems like a fair assumption, seeing as the Titans ripping the Earth Sphere apart was the whole reason Axis came back, and the Federation civil war crippled their ability to deal with Zeon remnants again. It's kind of fascinating to think about what the solar system might have been like if Operation Stardust had never happened and Axis had just spent the next few decades chilling out among the outer planets. Then again, the Federation would still have been a corrupt dead-end state crumbling away thanks to the fundamental disconnect between its rulers and their subjects, and if Axis had managed to take over the Jupiter helium trade...

Axis was on its way back anyway — it takes something like a year to make the trip (I'd have to check to find the exact number), and Axis knew that they weren't getting any stronger out there in the asteroid belt. They built themselves up as far as they could go, and then came back at the height of their strength, before age degraded their personnel and equipment any further. It was mostly luck (helped by Haman being politically savvy) that the Titans and the AEUG largely wiped each other out without Axis getting too involved, leaving them to take over the wreckage.

This is pure speculation, but I suspect that had Haman not found the military strength of the Federation so desperately weakened, she would have attacked Side 3 — it's a much easier target, and there's a good chance that the Federation would have written it off as "not our problem" and looked the other way while Haman took over. Then, with a much larger industrial and economic base to work with, Haman could start to put those resources towards dealing with the Federation.

She saw an opportunity and took it. And she probably would have succeeded had it not been...literally, for those meddling kids.

I've been thinking of a new story for Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Frame Astrays recently and, coincidentally enough, it seems that there's actually something new for it in the works.

Based on the image looks like the focus is on the green frame. I wonder if it would be a manga or anime. Either way it is a cool idea.

Considering that the person who tweeted this announcement has drawn many Manga for the Gundam franchise, not to mention that the Astray series has always been in Literature form, I have a feeling it's going to be a Manga.

Gundam Thunderbolt's Yasuo Ohtagaki Launches New Manga on December 17

as smoltzy as it is

" I'm waiting for your love" gets me everytime

- Note Da fuck, I didn't even open that video... has laughing fit-

Edited by FrozenWolf2 on Nov 15th 2019 at 10:41:36 AM

00's getting a 3rd season right?

How did the movie leave things?

There’s some sort of animated sequel in the works, but all we know is that the director is returning. We don’t know if it’s a full third season, another movie, or just an animated short.

00’s movie ended really conclusively. As in humanity gives up war forever and the protagonist goes an a 50-year trip to negotiate with space aliens. There’s really nowhere else for the story to go, although I am curious if they can top a space alien invasion.

Edited by lrrose on Nov 15th 2019 at 12:34:30 PM

There's been two wars following the movie. One by people against the Innovators, followed by another against the existence of the ELS. Or the wars happened in the opposite order.

But that's certainly an improvement over the hundreds of years of petty squabbling humanity has engaged in, so still an improvement in the long term, and managed to settle it pretty conclusively with what we saw with the movie.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 15th 2019 at 9:42:54 AM

The Men Who Created Gundam, more popularly known as Gundam Sousei, has been officially licensed by Denpa and will be released outside of Japan.

Now y'all can read about the Seductive Artesia incident for yourselves. :)

Just noticed that Fonse Kagatie was born in the same year that Paptimus Scirocco died. Considering how similar their goals were, that's a remarkable coincidence.

Gundam x Hello Kitty War Rages on with New Shirt Line

As much shit as I give Seed... well mostly Lacus and Destiny

I still have a soft spot for the original and I do like this scene.

Can I just say that Yzak killing Raider and Forbidden without missing a beat, by the skin of his teeth with a first-generation G-Project Mobile Suit to boot is still my favourite moment in all of SEED.

Tomino follows up on his rant from the other week elaborating on his annoyance with “emotionally stunted” works.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-11-22/gundam-creator-yoshiyuki-tomino-elaborates-on-his-criticisms-of-makoto-shinkai-weathering-with-you/.153563

His key argument is that the works wallow in escapism and that to him feels self destructive.

Kingdom, Terraformers, Snack Basue Manga Artists Design Their Own Gundams

What qualifies as emotionally stunted by his standards?

From what I can tell, he doesn't like how Shinkai stops at "yearning love". I haven't seen all of Shinkai's stuff, but the stories I have seen did seem to stop at the "okay, the crisis is solved and now a romantic relationship can get started" stage, but before any actual relationship happens. I think that's what Tomino's referring to.

Say what you will about Tomino's own romance writing, but we do actually see characters in committed relationships with him. Hugging, kissing, etc.

Edited by DarkHunter on Nov 23rd 2019 at 9:15:25 AM

We have a little more info on the new "G-UNIT" Manga, named "New Mobile Report Gundam W G-UNIT Operation Galiarest".