Sinfest

There is only one forum that talks about the comic positively and it is DEAD. Meanwhile, the places that do talk about it with a critical eye seem to be thriving.

Now we have a forum for people who actually enjoy criticizing the comic! Hell yes! I'll call up all my buddies here!! Armageddon is coming.

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 24th 2019 at 2:22:37 AM

https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-10-25

Good gravy I never heard him talk. Also yeah pimpdude is right zomber, you gotta pay for it

2x I saw what you did there. And I approve. XD

Makes me even more convinced that Z6-whatever was Tats in disguise. No-one's biting the bait anymore so they've gone off the radar just as much as all the people scared of being banned. Ignore the forum now and just focus on Spinster, that'll get you the patreon bux back right?

Ouch. Hit in the pocket.

And once more, the "agent of evil" is the one stating the reasonable course of action. "You broke it, you pay it". Seriously, how are we supposed to root for the opposite side?

Eh. in this case, I think the Gender Pimp is in the wrong. ZombieGirl didn't blow up the drone. The drone flew itself into the sign while it was trying to kill her.

But ZombieGirl may have ruined her defense by agreeing with what the Gender Pimp said. Which leads me to another rant ...

Why does Tats make so many of his characters mentally impaired? It's like a fetish with him! First it was Tange, who seems to have an IQ around room temperature (Fahrenheit or Celsius, take your pick); she is violent, sociopathic, and confused, and she has the vocabulary of a four-year-old. Then there's Li'l Evil, who has amnesia, seems terminally naive, and is almost completely devoid of personal initiative. Storytime Zombie has many of the mannerisms of a low-functioning Down's Syndrome person and is even less intelligent than Tange. If those three weren't enough, Tats then introduced an entire city full of zombies, disgusting creatures who don't even qualify as human and who speak in moans and grunts. Now we have ZombieGirl, who seems to be a replacement for Tange; we have no idea how or why she became a zombie ... but by George, she is one, and she is stupid!

Tats, do you think the only way you can stay ahead of your own characters is by making them all idiots?

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 25th 2019 at 12:34:01 PM

The pimp doesn't seem mad at all. Why does the Patriarchy exist out of reasonable authority figures and why do the heroes seem like the villains?

It's a mystery that eludes Tats until this day!

Trying to kill the zombie in an act of self defence after giving the zombie a fair warning to keep her hands off it. If you think about it, the zombie started it.

Honestly, the way Tats has been portraying zombies until the one with the lady bits showed up, trying to kill her is probably the morally just way to deal with the zombie prostitute.

I mean, the male zombies were mysoginist, human traffickers, rapists, some of them even (gasp!) TRANSGENDERS and MODERN FEMINISTS!

Tats refusing to address why this female is the first woman zombie only implies she's done some heinous shit to not be considered a victim on sight!

Also: you make a good point about Tats's fetish for stupidity. I don't get it at all. Perhaps he thinks it's endearing? Or funny? Instead of being aggravating and making his heroes look like they shouldn't be allowed outside without supervision and a helmet

Edited by hayate666 on Oct 25th 2019 at 12:03:50 PM

Why would the pimp be mad? He just gained a new layer of control over her. Just like the old pimp and Sad Sally, he was going all about "cancelling her debt".

Edit: I'm gonna make a pettyfest of this later today. My theory is that the zombie handmaiden and the woke pimp are also Sad Sally and the regular pimp. She just acquired the debt she's gonna be paying off. We just have to add a bit of time travel and some character redesign.

In my mind this is canon, and it probably makes more sense than anything Tats will come up with.

Edited by Garvalan on Oct 25th 2019 at 10:16:12 AM

Since both are generic and nameless, it makes sense to assume that their souls simply migrate from body to body as needed by The Narrative. And have you ever noticed that we've never seen Sad Orphan Hooker and ZombieGirl together? (Well, not unless she was also the Sad Dissociating Ghost Handmaid ...)

The big problem is that The Narrative is really, really stupid.

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 25th 2019 at 7:51:04 AM

https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-10-26

I'm confused

So the new pimp can see people as Johnbies/Hohnbies? An attribute previously owned only by devils and the sisterhood

Major Retcon, I choose you!

Hell with it, this calls for..... General Retcon!

Only the General can even attempt to save this stuff

What the hell? I kinda think the pimp is bad ass. Am I supposed to like the pimp? Tatsuya? Why are you making the pimp likable and polite? ...am I supposed to root for the pimp? Your DNA must be super scrambled, because you are nothing but a meat puppet of mixed messages.

It's a running gag at this point on how inconsistent the rules in regards to the zombies.

I feel like this is supposed to be some heinous remark from the pimp, but I literally don't understand what it is supposed to be or why.

Now if Tats was a competent author we would have known why she has the zombie face going on and we would have been able to understand the context of what the pimp is asking her to do.

The correct response to the male zombies was somewhere between verbal abuse at best, decapitation with a blade at worst.

Because Tats refuses to establish anything about the zombie prostitute he's just making the pimp look good, because he is REACTING MORE FRIENDLY AND REASONABLE THAN THE DESIGNATED HEROES EVER HAVE.

Tats's writing remains the best argument AGAINST TERF and SWERF by its very nature, all while he is fishing for sympathy and fans on radfem social media.

Tats does seem to be a true believer at least. It's as if he's writing like he can't even comprehend the possibility that others may believe other things than he does and need to be convinced. His Cause is so righteous, so perfect, that everyone not instantly seeing that must be infected by the Patriarchy or trying to undermine him.

Inconsistent in everything at this point!

Sadly that's becoming more and more the case these days.

https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-10-27

Woo sunday comics! This time theres a message I can understand at the same time doesnt even make sense if its plot driven

Short answer: Fembots as a metaphor for Patriarchy-deluded het-sex-tolerating un-Woke women is out.

New metaphor for Patriarchy-deluded het-sex-tolerating un-Woke women is Handmaids who are really zombies under their makeup.

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 26th 2019 at 8:06:16 AM

Thats wack

So- wait. The way to NOT look like a Zombie is to take a bunch of antidepressents, an act which is typically known to "zombify" you and leave you numb to your emotions?

How can you get a metaphor this backwards. Wouldn't it be more prudent if the women were being forced to take medication t turn themselves INTO "Hoe-nbies" in order to tolerate their horribly oppressed lives? You could even get a two-for-one hot take about societal beauty norms being about making women look more and more unnatural through plastic surgery being akin to ugly people pretending they're beautiful.

How do you get such an easy metaphor so wrong? Having normal women being forced into acts that physically and mentally degrade them to the point they have to turn themselves into obedient "Zombie" "Handmaidens" to their pimps and society at large. But no. They ARE zombies, and they take pills to make themselves more normal. I- what?

Okay, so three months ago almost to the day, Tats was saying that makeup and performing gender didn't change anything at all for male zombies (https://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-07-28) I wonder if that's supposed to fit here and if so, how.

I think the point is that she's not making herself normal, she's only making herself LOOK normal. If she's actually making herself normal Tats is getting his own fucking metaphors backwards, while if she's making herself look normal... it seems unnecessary. We have two layers of oppression (handmaiden and zombie) that are doing pretty much the same.

Unless you have a zombie, infected by the patriarchy and mysogyny, trying to pass as woke by performing as a feminist... which would be a metaphor for Tats himself so apt that I'd almost label it a cry for help.

Edit: I wonder if she will keep her zombie voice or begin talking and acting normally. I guess that would be the key point here.

Edited by Garvalan on Oct 26th 2019 at 10:21:54 AM

I honestly thought this Sunday strip was a rather vicious attack on trans people.

The "Choice" sign and then the medicine bottles with the Venus symbol, which I assumed were estrogen and other transition hormones.

So, there actually is no such things as a female Johnbie. The character was actually supposed to be a caricature of a trans woman all along, and Tat is saying that underneath the clothes and makeup, she's still a Johnbie, and not a real woman.

I realize this is imperfect, and somewhat inconsistent, but so is Tat's plotting, so, not a lot to work with here. Hard to make sense of the insensible.

Sometimes, I think we give him more credit than he deserves in terms of his sophistication when expressing his radical feminist views. He drops anvils everywhere.

It sounds possible but if thats the case then why did Xanthe gave a cupcake to her? Meh it might be retconned

So, my two cents on this are thus: I still believe that is the girl from the disassociation arc. Her being zombie-fied is a result of the patriarchy or her buying into the system of it. I guess, what Tatsuya is trying to say is that for all intents and purposes, she is dead to the world. She is a walking corpse whose duty is to fulfill the desires of the patriarchy. Essentially, her zombie-ness is a reflection of the abuses of the world. The drugs and the makeup are her hiding the abuses of the world to keep the fantasy going.

Although he is too busy focusing on trying to get laid by random radfems (and being fantastically unsuccessful at it, I am sure), this would also relate to corporate life among men; consisting of work essentially forcing people to continue with the facade of happiness and cheer by putting on a happy face to do their job.

It would suit the comic better if he focused on that aspect as well, but I suspected he meant the thing about zombies to apply to "working stiffs" as well: the people who put in the late hours and are slaves to commerce. Of course, he can't get off his stupid crusade for long enough to elaborate on that point.

But then again, that is based on his assumption that everyone hates their job to the point where they are nothing but zombies. I freaking love my job, but I am good at it. I take pride in it. It would make sense why Tat would think he is a zombie stuck in a dead end job though.

Yeah, every day is going to be hell when people keep on accurately reminding you that you suck at your job. If I was the author of Sinfest I would want to be an unfeeling, unhearing, blind zombie too.

Edited by Gibson35 on Oct 26th 2019 at 11:44:41 AM

I still believe that is the girl from the disassociation arc.

I'm pretty sure you're right. This is the ghost girl, Miss Two Eyebrow Studs, back again. (the Sad Orphan Hooker is Miss One Eyebrow Stud.) Note that the closeup of her face with the studs at "stage right" seems to be a mirror view, since her studs are actually in her right eyebrow. (So are the Sad Orphan Hooker's.)

Sometimes, I think we give him more credit than he deserves in terms of his sophistication when expressing his radical feminist views. He drops anvils everywhere.

Y'know, maybe Tats himself doesn't fully understand where he's going with this plot arc/allegory/metaphor/symbolism/whatever.

I could see that happening if Tats is being fed ideas by Someone Else ... and Tats had damn well better incorporate those ideas into Sinfest if he knows what's good for him. And it doesn't matter if those ideas make sense or not.

Edited by Hexapodia on Oct 27th 2019 at 12:02:29 PM