Sinfest

You know beforehand there are going to be no consequences because this is Sinfest, but it still hurts to see it happen.

To be frank, there's no real reason TO punish them. Woke M and her group are disliked by EVERYONE not in their circle of friends outside of maybe slick who tats likely has forgotten.

They are hostile to anyone outside their group and accomplish nothing, except destruction and/or confusion and their most vocalzed solutions are extreme and not practical. ("Kill all men!") In truth, the may be his most closest allies; acting as crabs in a bucket and dragging down anyone who grows too notable.

Edited by killerX354 on Jul 22nd 2018 at 10:39:11 AM

Prediction: If Blue ever gives a reason for not turning them over to Satan, she'll say it's because she'd been watching Monique and Amber together on the viewscreens, and she could tell that they were Truly In Love ... and it reminded her of how she (Blue) and Fuchsia used to be Truly In Love. So she let them go out of sentimentality. "But just this one time, you hear me?!"

That's The Power Of Love!

(But she wouldn't have done it if they were some icky straight couple.)

Edited by Hexapodia on Jul 23rd 2018 at 12:01:15 PM

New strip: http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2018-07-24

WokeMonique, in case you haven't noticed, that's exactly what many of the players on your own side have done. Tumblr, for example, is a giant game of ¿Quién es más despierto?

(Or would that be "despertó"? No hablo español ...)

Edited by Hexapodia on Jul 23rd 2018 at 10:01:56 AM

The problem is she is too dense to see it.

Monique, Monique, Monique. That's not how you crush a revolution when you rule the world. You put out a announcement for a Big Super Brothel in town, wait for the pests to show up to distrupt it...only to find they are caught in a....Iron Cage Situation.

And for those of you not into warhammer 40k let me explain via qouting 1d4chan

"But before fleeing he performed one of the greatest acts of trolling in the entire fluff, called the "Eternal Fortress". A trap set for the Imperial Fists who wanted to take revenge on Perturabo who claimed to be residing in the Central Keep of the Fortress. Surrounding the Fortress was a 20 kilometer killzone, filled with mine fields, traps, bunkers, trenches, and every other kind of base defense imaginable in order to make the assault on the keep a very costly affair. This was intended to bleed the Imperial Fists dry for when they reached the actual fortress. This was made more effective by the fact that the Imperial Fist's fleet was kept busy dealing with the Iron Warriors' fleet, preventing them from providing effective orbital support to Dorn's forces on the ground, isolating them all the more.

When the Imperial Fists DID manage to get to the keep, after wading through twenty miles (or maybe kilometers...) of killing ground and losing a great deal of their forces in the process, they found out the Central Keep was *plot twist* empty! (Except for the various inward-pointing guns aimed directly at the Imperial Fists, essentially trapping them inside the fortress.) This caused Rogal Dorn to become a normal man after getting trolled: Sad, broken and RAGED. But before the Imperial Fists even got out of the mess they had get shot at for three weeks before getting saved by none other than the great heroes of the Imperium, the *cough* Ultrasmurfs *cough*. So then the Iron Warriors, realizing they couldn't beat both legions at the same time, decided to instead deny the Imperial Fists from recovering their fallen brothers' gene seed by essentially nuking the entire fucking planet"

That last part will be revisedto nuking the city, after covering said nukes in sisterhood propaganda to make it look like they dropped it to discredit them.

Edited by yamiblade on Jul 23rd 2018 at 1:17:49 PM

WHAT revolution!? In your world all you have are a bunch of terrorists who keep wrecking things that keep getting repaired or replaced as if nothing happened! Your "revolution" basically amount to a bunch of holier than thou jackasses who want to feel morally superior but only manage to make their causes look bad via association!

I mean, hell, what have YOU done Monique? All your contribution has been reading crappy poetry, and mischief that would ensure that your girlfriend would be in no small amount of hot water were they to be found out!

In summary...

Edited by Metalix on Jul 23rd 2018 at 10:44:53 AM

I miss when Monique was actually an appealing character.

I miss the time when the Devil wasn't an appealing character.

Author avatar Monique gives an interesting look into Tats's mindset. Abby is still as dumb as a sack of bricks.

"Profits"? "Corner the activist market"? There is a market for activism? So Monique is basically admitting here she's profiting from her activism?

Nooooo, anything but fun! As soon as people think social justice is fun, the revolution is RUINED! Is that why Tats's heroes are all humourless harpies? Laughter is the death of radical feminism?

Tats seems to have a world view that is pretty bleak if you look at this. He considers the way Monique and co. are fighting the Great Struggle the only way to do it right.

I wonder if THIS time they'll have an argument - I mean, usually Monique doesn't mind Absinthe being dumber than a bag of bowling balls, because that way she can tell her whatever shit she wants (plus, according to the apple comic, get endless amount of poon, since THAT is what she remembers best when thinking of her) but this time miss Airhead Airlines is trying to find good in her opponent.

And if you aren't on Monique's side you're wrong. Dead wrong. And she ditches you like trash. Just ask Slick...

Edited by alarkhar on Jul 24th 2018 at 9:24:00 PM

@hayate666: "Profits"? "Corner the activist market"? There is a market for activism?

Any number of companies and organizations are discovering the truth of the adage "Get Woke, Go Broke."

Nooooo, anything but fun! As soon as people think social justice is fun, the revolution is RUINED! Is that why Tats's heroes are all humourless harpies? Laughter is the death of radical feminism?

Who do you think invented "That's Not Funny!"?

@alarkhar: I wonder if THIS time they'll have an argument [...] And if you aren't on Monique's side you're wrong. Dead wrong. And she ditches you like trash. Just ask Slick...

Excellent point! (I'm going to steal that observation and bring it up on the Discordia group.)

Edited by Hexapodia on Jul 24th 2018 at 1:35:48 AM

"Get woke, go broke"?

Let me know what they say.

Yeah, me neither.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jul 24th 2018 at 1:29:59 PM

@Drunken Nordmann and Redmess

Get Woke, Go Broke is a phrase coined by the author John Ringo to express the opinion that when organizations "get woke" to politically correct actions, those same actions usually result in a massive loss of income.

This is usually because the Twitter instigators calling for the company to "get woke" doesn't actually spend any money with the company. Biggest example of this right now is Marvel Comics, which regularly has to cancel and relaunch their more Woke books.

Sure you have some outliers, Tat's patreon being a prime example, but that tends to be the exception, and it doesn't tend to last.

Edited by Metalix on Jul 24th 2018 at 7:03:37 AM

Yeah, I call bullshit on that sentiment. Because if you lose income by taking a pro-equality stance, you either did so in a very bad way (Marvel has been infamously ham-fisted) - or most of your customers were bigots in the first place in which case your business model had issues anyway.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jul 24th 2018 at 4:29:07 PM

The key deference between politically correct businesses and "Woke" businesses is the act of burning bridges.

It's one thing to encourage a political view but it's about her to discourage every other. For example there was a restaurant who kicked out trump supporters solely for being trump supporters. Naturally, they began to lose business. The result would have been the same had they done the opposite, but because the former are "politically inconvenient" it comes as a suprise, and (To them) unfair.

Not to mention, as was stated before, the "woke" crowd has proven time and again to be very bad at actually spending money on the things that change to appeal to them, and VERY easy to turn against those same things if someone manages to find offense.

Tats' Patreon is an exception that can go bottom up the MOMENT anyone higher up than him on the oppression totem poll (Which, as a straight, cisgender Asian man, would be everyone except straight, cisgender white men) finds something to complain about.

So what am I supposed to be, then? Because I'm definitely a feminist, so I guess I'm technically "woke", but I'm not one of THOSE people you guys are talking about.

You are you. "Woke" is an insult to the idea that everyone is asleep aka matrix and the "Woken" must educated them on their flaws. Honestly, it's a strawman, but because of the circle jerk nature of politics right now, none who follow tats philosophy are even aware of it and fall right into very easy to avoid potholes. It's why dislike radicals.

What Said. To paraphrase what was said in South Park, there's a world of difference between being a feminist/liberal/progressive, and being Woke.

One of the unintentionally funniest bits about creators pandering to certain radical demographics is how self-parodying the pandering and the people being pandered to can get.

Typical patriarchy, our new hero is once again a male... More women in comics!

Oh sure, our new hero is a woman... But what about BLACK WOMEN? WHITE PRIVILEGE!

Oh sure, our new hero is a black woman... But what about TRANSGENDERS? CIS PRIVILEGE!

Oh sure, our new hero is a black Female to Male transsexual... But what about disabled people? ABLEISM!

Oh sure, our new hero is a black Female to Male transsexual in a wheelchair... But what about FAT PEOPLE? THIN PRIVILEGE!

Oh sure, our new hero is a fat (FATSHAMERS! ok, ok...) THICK black Female to Male transsexual in a wheelchair... But he is being opposed by a white guy? RACISM!

Oh sure, our new hero is a THICK black Female to Male transsexual in a wheelchair... But he is being opposed by a black guy? OH OF COURSE THE VILLAIN IS BLACK, RACISTS!

Etcetera, etcetera. Meanwhile none of those complainers are buying any of those comics and the changes are driving the old fan base away because the feel like the creators don't want them around any more.

The saddest thing about this it that it's poisoning the well for the cause of egalitarianism. We've come to the point that we sometimes can't be sure if a "progressive" (for lack of a better term) character is a character that just happens to be progressive or if it's a character planted there to check off some invisible checklist of progressiveness.

It's really up to the creators of content to keep writing varied characters that feel like people instead of puppets for ideological causes. It's what turned Sinfest to shit, it's really a lesson they should learn from that.

Edited by hayate666 on Jul 24th 2018 at 9:05:23 PM

It's really up to the creators of content to keep writing varied characters that feel like people instead of puppets for ideological causes. It's what turned Sinfest to shit, it's really a lesson they should learn from that.

The strange thing about Tats erasing Monique's personality and replacing it with ideology is that she was already a left-wing feminist who was against war, capitalism, sexism, and all those other icky things. But to become an ideologically pure radfem, she had to become a lesbian and she had to lose her sense of humor and any of her friends who weren't completely in sync with her politics.

Oh, and as far as the anomalous success of Tats' Patreon is concerned, it's not difficult to explain. The difference is that he put Wokeness over all else before he started the Patreon. If he had a Patreon in 2010, it would have been far more profitable — consider the large number of commenters he had back then. And if he later went Full Radfem, he would have lost most of them.

I don't get the second part, though. Why would Wokenique need to lose her sense of humor?