Fighteer
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Lost in Space
from The Time Vortex
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Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2: Nov 7th 2020 at 5:25:22 AM
While this is certainly something that deserves a look, making a TRS topic is premature. We have a Trope Talk thread
specifically about the issues with LGBT+ tropes that I suggest you bring this to first to get some consensus before bringing a TRS action.
One of the questions to look at is whether being a normal, non-stereotypical member of any demographic is inherently tropable.
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So recently I had a note exchange with Fireblood (you might need him for further discussion) and we both realised there is a general problem with "labelling" in all of the gay tropes. There is Camp Gay, Straight Gay, Butch Lesbian and Lipstick Lesbian... but as it turned out when we were trying to hammer something down, both Lipstick Lesbian and Straight Gay are pretty vague in their wording and very, very broad.
However, Lipstick Lesbian can't decide if it wants to either be a trope about:
- all non-butch lesbians
- explicitly femme lesbians and only that
Not helping matters the trope itself discuss "chapstick" as a conceptMeanwhile, while main article is pretty vague about it, the Laconic version of Straight Gay explicitly notes to be male-only trope. And it gets further messy, as it describes Lipstick Lesbian as its spear counterpart.
This lead to us realising there is no way in existing labels to pin-point a Straight Gay lesbian. If you put her under Lipstick Lesbian, this ends up being misleading. If you put her under Straight Gay, this leads to the obvious problem of it being apparently male-only trope (even if the main page description doesn't say so)
So my "brilliant" solution to all of this is to rework the Straight Gay page slightly to simply make it cover all homosexual characters that happen to be "straight", rather than the confussion if this is male-only or "genderless" trope. Even the chapstick bit from Lipstick Lesbian could be directly ported to Straight Gay.
Anyone? Anything?
Edited by Betoniarz on Oct 4th 2020 at 1:55:46 AM