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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1: Aug 10th 2020 at 11:44:33 PM

Can Introduced Species Calamity count:

  • humans themselves being the species?
  • "constructed" lifeforms like robots or artificial monsters?

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#2: Aug 11th 2020 at 6:33:11 AM

Based on a look at the trope-page, I don't see why not.

The only caveat that might be raised is that the trope doesn't seem to cover species moving over their own accord. Thus humans migrating naturally to a new location likely wouldn't count, while humans sent or taken to a new location (even if by another group of humans) would, I think.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#3: Aug 11th 2020 at 6:58:34 AM

[up] "species moving over their own accord"

I think this happens often enough to be notable too.

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#4: Aug 12th 2020 at 2:28:40 AM

If so, then I'd suggest that it's perhaps a separate trope to Introduced Species Calamity.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#5: Aug 12th 2020 at 7:44:02 AM

[up] If the effects are similar, I don't think it would warrant a separate trope.

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#6: Aug 13th 2020 at 12:13:30 AM

The effects are similar, but the causes are different, which can affect how those effects are portrayed and seen. For example, an introduced species was put into its environment by a third party, and thus at least some narrative responsibility for the resulting calamity might be placed on that third party.

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4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#7: Aug 13th 2020 at 2:57:57 AM

[up] still too subtle to be a separate trope, imo.

The trope is about the calamity and the cause, not the cause's cause.

Edited by 4tell0life4 on Aug 13th 2020 at 2:59:39 AM

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#8: Aug 13th 2020 at 11:58:55 AM

Well, I see no reason to not agree to disagree on this: To my mind the difference is salient enough to make for separate tropes, but unless we're discussing whether to make a new trope page then I see little purpose to arguing overmuch about it beyond sharing our perspectives.

That said, I do think that if we go with your definition then your original question is more unambiguously answered with a "yes": there is a living or living-analogous group introduced to an environment, and this results in a calamity.

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