The General Star Wars Thread

Everything made pre-Disney except for the first six films and The Clone Wars (the CGI one, movie and series, not Genndy's version) is Legends.

Edited by lbssb on Jun 10th 2023 at 2:10:49 PM

Yes it is Legends.

And so is Swtor by the way.

Edited by jawal on Jun 10th 2023 at 12:45:28 PM

Alright.

50% of the battle now achieved.

Thanks. That was really bothering me.

Revan and Lehon are both canon, at least in name.

The planet Tython is also canon.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jun 11th 2023 at 10:56:52 AM

We have a trailer for that open world Ubisoft game. Star Wars Outlaws scheduled for 2024.

I'm definitely liking the axolotl dog and trenchcoat Commando Droid, but the whole "open world game by Ubisoft" thing puts a pretty big damper on my expectations.

Also not sure what they are on about calling this the "first-ever" open world Star Wars game.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jun 11th 2023 at 9:59:57 PM

Can we get a studio that doesn't have a red flag surrounding it?

Cause I have a half mind to believe Disney would be willing to commission a game from Blizzard.

They're being hilariously technical with that claim. There ought to be an asterisk attached.

Discounting the MMOs despite those being open world, maybe because they're MMO's? Discounting Fallen Order for only being partially open world, but mostly linear? But even then that doesn't work because KOTOR exists.

Now, if it turns out it's really open world, just a big ass map you can do anything you want in in any order you want in however you want with few restrictions - something like Breath of the Wild - that would give weight to the claim. But we'll see if that's what they mean.

Or... what would really make my day if it was like way open world, to the point of having a few simulation aspects: like Sid Meier's Pirates in space, or Elite Dangerous with extensive 3PS RPG elements on the ground.

I really hope the main character's design is so generic because you can heavily custom them this time, and that we don't have another Cal Cestis situation.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 11th 2023 at 1:07:27 AM

The trailer looks splendid. But after still not being able to play Jedi Survivor due to the technical disaster it is, I'm very cautious.

Seriously, a Star Wars game focused on the criminal underworld is something I've wanted for years. So to see we're finally getting one from Ubisoft is a real monkey's paw situation for me.

Yeah, between this and letting Dave Cage get his hands all over the license, they really need to fire whomever decides what studios to give the license to at this point.

It's still weird to me how back in the day LucasArts kinda had this shotgun approach to handing out the game license, but unlike Games Workshop it actually worked for them (as in: there weren't really many bad Star Wars games)?

Meanwhile Disney seems to give the license out fairly sparingly by comparison, but just keeps hitting landmines.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jun 12th 2023 at 10:00:47 AM

It's annoying, but consistent. They're going for big name companies they think can offer them big name rewards, and not really giving a crap about anything else surrounding those names like negative social or business buzz. Disney has always preferred to be at the point where they don't have to think about video games at all, so they're making these decisions based on who would superficially give the easiest but most lucrative return - only to keep getting trapped when the latest big name they hitch their wagon to turns out to be a dumpster fire.

They're got "rich dude who isn't paying attention" vibes. But at least they're not being exclusive any more.

It's a matter of time before another gaming dev can catch their attention without any dumpster fire.

There's a whole host of smaller studios or even indie developers whose games I've experienced that I know would probably make amazing Star Wars content, but Disney is unlikely to ever look in their direction without some kind of catalyst sadly.

Speaking of Star Wars fiscal decisions - I recently had the chance to finally go to Galaxy's Edge, and I agree with Star Wars Explained's assessment that the biggest unfortunate bit surrounding the Galactic Starcruiser is that the money sunk into it probably would've been better served evening out Galaxy's Edge.

You can really spend all day at Galaxy's Edge, except there just isn't a lot to do there. Especially if you're in a family, because there isn't a ride that younger kids can do. It could at least use a ride without a height requirement.

I recall there were plans for a bantha ride for kids that was going to be like a caravan circling the land, but it was cut.

Double annoying because Ride of the Resistance is basically Mickey's Runaway Railway with just a lot more walking involved and a couple more intense jerks (that is, Mickey's Runaway Railway was slightly more intense than I was expecting for an all-ages ride, and Ride of the Resistance was a lot less intense than I was expecting for a ride with a height requirement). I feel like that probably could've been an all ages ride if they wanted it to be.

I'm not really complaining any more, though. Right now my mind is just buzzing with options for what an all ages ride could've been:

• The very first thing I thought of was a peaceful ride with Yoda or Rey guiding the riders through a force vision or something, maybe a "history of the Star War Universe / The Jedi" ride.
• It would make no sense to be on Batuu, but imagine a ride simulating the underwater adventure from The Phantom Menace.
• A swashbuckling Batuu pirate ride with Hondo, but less "vr flight simulator" and more Pirates of the Caribbean. Maybe you follow Hondo as he escapes from an adventure.
• Another one that makes no sense to be on Batuu, but a ride following a bunch of younglings on The Gathering. Maybe even a Young Jedi Adventures themed ride.
• An animal themed ride: you follow someone wrangling some cool Star Wars animals and/or kid friendly monsters.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 9:41:26 AM

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Lucasarts just seemed to be much more in the know

Like yeah for the most part they just took Genre and apply Star wars to it.

but damn did they not churn out some good ones.

I like Fallen order but I miss the Quake inspired Arena fighting of Jedi Knight

I think it was a quantity thing. One of the reasons quality vs quantity sometimes doesn't work as a comparison is because when you have a lot of content, the good stuff stands out more, but when you have less content the bad stuff stands out more.

It's one of the reasons why the ST gets so much hate. There's a lot of good stuff in the current canon (I'd say on average more good than the old days), but there's much less content overall so the bad stories stand out so much more. Meanwhile, there definitely were loads of bad Star Wars video games back in the day, but because we got so many games overall you didn't even really need to look at those clunkers if you didn't want to.

That's what we're missing now with videy games. We get, like, a Star Wars game every two years. So when Battlefront 2 had a rocky start and needs several years to get its shit together, that means the Star Wars video game experience overall is rough even if we also have Fallen Order to counterpoint it, because we only have Fallen Order to counterpoint it.

Meanwhile, for every Legends of Teras Kasi in the old days there were tons of average and good Star Wars games of every genre to look at instead.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 12th 2023 at 11:34:34 AM

Since we now also have some Gameplay footage, I opened up a Star Wars Outlaws thread over there at Video Games, if you're interested in discussing

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16865990880A20203500

Yooo I forgot we were also getting Outlaws footage today. <throws everything I'm doing on the floor and runs to the footage>

Disney has just announced a new Star Wars film, which will be released on December 18, 2026. Another Star Wars film has been pushed from December 19, 2025, to May 22, 2026.

Edited by gjjones on Jun 13th 2023 at 5:20:12 AM

Could it be the Rey one? Taiki Wahiti's one? Or something else?

What?! They're trying the M Arvel model now?

Edited by LoneCourier0 on Jun 13th 2023 at 11:21:42 AM

I assume Rey’s film was probably the 2025 one, to aim for the 10th anniversary of The Force Awakens. Looks like they’ll avoid a rush here, for now.

Also, there's another Star Wars film for December 17, 2027.

Edited by gjjones on Jun 13th 2023 at 5:29:44 AM

Came across some great updates to the E-Wing and K-Wing on artstation.