Crest of Flames could be what offsets it.
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How long do crest bearers live anyway? I mean, we know that at least owners of the Crest of Seiros live over a 100 years old like Jeralt, assuming that Edelgard at least gets the crest of flames removed or somehow gets the negative effects removed, she and Byleth may have over a century to live.
Also the possibilities of a corrupt successor exists in endings besides Edelgard's. Her ending only assures that any successor at least won't be incompetent. Dimitri and Claude's successors have the potential to be corrupt, i mean look at Arvis, he was the heir of heroes, and look how well that turned out.
Speaking of crests, is the people or the system at fault? I mean Crests do tempt people with the power and prestige they have.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 12th 2019 at 6:56:25 AM
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Their lifespans probably aren't much different than normal folks. Minor Crests probably adds a few years while Major likely a decade or two.
Now 1st Generation crest blood means you can live for hundreds of years.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:03:26 AM
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So what if Byleth donates their blood to Edelgard? Would that extend her lifespan like it did with Rhea and Jeralt? I mean they still have Sothis's power despite the crest stone being gone. (It's still super confusing)
Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:02:29 AM
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She already has her blood remember? But no one full undertsnads Sothis blood but its way more powerful than her kids.
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Well Jeralt is basically the Ten Elite of Seiros, in the sense that he got his crest from a blood transfusion instead of inheriting it like everyone else in the game.
I would say both are at fault as kings tended to rule by "divine right" anyway, but having a magic symbol and power only you have would serve as good "proof" of such. I would argue Crests aren't the root cause, but their veneration would make the transition to a non-feudal society harder. In any case, they certainly aren't a boon to society outside of war. Not that they're much of a boon with how wonky inheritance can be with them.
Edited by RedRob on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:05:28 AM
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But like Edelgard's sothis blood is inherited from generations of Emperors, Byleth's Sothis blood is fresh and straight from the source. So it might make a difference. Come to think of it, Byleth's blood is pretty exploitable.
Honestly, i'm still confused why Rhea kept propagating the damn Crest system, the closest reason i can guess is to establish order, like her line after Miklan becomes a monster, where she orders Byleth to keep the incident under wraps or people would lose faith in the nobility is the closest we've got to her motivations, not sure why she didn't just demonize Nemesis but prop up the 10 elites. Honestly, this is part of why we need Prequel DLC, to explain why Rhea started the whole system.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:09:15 AM
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Felix (major Crest) and Sylvain (minor Crest) die on the same day, so that's a thing at least.
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I think that has less to do with Crests, and more to do with satisfying yaoi fangirls.
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Actually they can be a boon outside it, but the flaws is no one tries to use them except for war. Slytherin made the weapons for killing afterall. The Saints weapons were made to protect their users and for fighting, while the rest were made for EVIL! EVIL!
Even the Crest-like Tools made by Hanneman does it only for war, instead of branchung them out for more benign purposes.
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Also a lot of Dimitri's paired endings have his partners outliving him
Edited by asterism on Sep 12th 2019 at 2:14:26 PM
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Dimitri dies to illness not old age, so we can't make a clear judgement over his lifespan.
You know, aside from Sylvain, we don't really see how crest bearers interact with the population in terms of reputation and laws. Like are Crest Bearers considered above the law? I'm reminded of a support with Maribelle from Awakening, that mentions in Ylisse, stealing ANYTHING from a Noble is an instant death penalty.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:17:19 AM
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x7 Could be she wouldn't be able to hunt down all their descendants.
According to this, https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/FB3dlan_timeline
, it took at least a hundred years for her to kill Nemesis.
Edited by RedRob on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:17:09 AM
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Mental health does play a part in one's lifespawn afterall.
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Old age isn't an actual cause of death, it just covers a broad range of age related illnesses, and the fact that the elderly tend to get more severely ill.
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Honestly, i think Seiros establishing the crest system and venerating Nemesis and the 10 elites is quite a leap of logic for her character. If she did it to spare the children of the elites, then why was Marianne's ancestor's transformation not covered up? I'm also not sure how crests keep the order, when by the time the game starts, the system has clearly failed, so all they are good for are for weapons.
Anyone else have any guesses for her motivation?
Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:20:55 AM
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It happened before she beat them, and you can't pretend an inhuman monster gobbling people down doesn't exist. Even if she had no idea where he was.
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Considering Maurice doesn't seem to be common knowledge like the legend of the Ten Elites, I wouldn't say it wasn't covered up.
Speaking of covering stuff up, IS censored Bernie's B-Support with Byleth. https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/d37vpu/bernadetta_b_support_change_in_update/ OP's comment has a link to what the line was before.
Edited by RedRob on Sep 12th 2019 at 10:28:26 AM
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Most systems fail with time, because people either change and abuse it for the worse, or people become so complacent until it falls apart around them Likewsie, those who try to overthrow the power structure typically end up being no different from the previous system as it was failing.
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Anyone who study subject knows about it, so that's enough to say it is not covered up. Ask random guy how fast is light or what is Maxwells Demon and see yourself. You can still google it easily if you are currious about that.
There's also that bit in Edelgard's C-support that was changed from Byleth joking about intending to slip into Edelgard's room. And a line in Sylvain and Ingrid's, uh... C-support, I think, that has Ingrid incredulously reference a time Sylvain hit on a crossdresser.
(Unrelatedly, it never says that Hanneman's devices are weapons; they're explicitly "tools" usable without Crests, are used by the leaders in all endings, including Byleth in endings where she takes a throne, and are called "cornerstones of progress" in some texts, so they're likely not weapons.)
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Considering how they've been used as nothing but weapons I highly doubt he's found a way change that himself. Unlike his ending with Lysithea which has her continue his research for the better, and making them fundamentally cheaper to produce too(Which means the likliness of them not being produce for non-conflict is zilch in other endings).
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 12th 2019 at 7:37:04 AM
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My assumption is that her life wasn't shortened, due to being the final experiment, but Slithers never told her such or anything, and she's more than aware of a short lifespan being a possible side effect. So she acts with it in mind as a worst case scenario.
That or it's not nearly bad a case as Lysithea's, but Edelgard's unsure of how long she has.
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