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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#126: May 9th 2016 at 7:12:04 PM

Wait, if you have gold cards, why don't you use those to level up Vlad?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#127: May 9th 2016 at 7:18:13 PM

Uncle Vlad's leveling curve means I get very little in terms of stats from him, and if I drop the 70 EXP cards it'd take to level him to 90 for pitiful stat rewards, I wouldn't have enough to level a servant who would actually benefit from it if I happen to summon one later. Maybe the next time I'm overflowing with Experience Cards, I'll drop a few on him and take him to 90, but until then, it's just a waste of resources.

What I should actually do is level up his Blood Sucker skill... though even that is pointless since I usually give him a Kaleidoscope, and even at level 1 Blood Sucker gives him 20% NP, which means he can pop in and use his NP on the same turn he comes out.

Really, Uncle Vlad is a very good servant just as he is right now, I don't even need to give him much.

edited 9th May '16 7:19:00 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#128: May 9th 2016 at 7:20:51 PM

For some bizarre reason Kiyohime has betters stats than Hercules who's about 13 levels higher.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#129: May 9th 2016 at 7:33:34 PM

Yeah, about that, don't worry, it won't last.

Herakles: HP: 10,327 ATK: 10,655

Kiyohime: HP: 9,166 ATK: 6,644

As you can see, her max stats are significantly lower. 20k to 15k totals, and Herk has 4k ATK on her, which is a gigantic difference, even though his Mad Enhancement is inferior. That and Herk has Bravery, while Kiyohime doesn't have an attack buff. There's also the fact that Kiyohime's Defense Down skill also ups the Target's attack... and that she'll die in one or two good hits, while Herakles has Dodge and Battle Continuation so that doesn't really happen to him.

Kiyohime is cute, but unfortunately, she's an incredibly weak servant, which is why I kinda hope that she gets a massive buff with the Strengthening Quests that'll be released this week. And that Bikini Lancer Kiyohime actually becomes a thing.

edited 9th May '16 7:33:57 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#130: May 9th 2016 at 7:36:06 PM

For the moment though, she and Hercules are actually on par. And putting Volumen Hydrargyrum on either of them actually makes them super-tanky.

Ooh, Heracles bond 10 CE is actually prettying good!

"When equipped to Heracles (Berserker) only, Revive with 500HP when defeated (3 times)"

It's like, 1/4 of God Hand!

Actually, some of the Level 10 bond CE are actually pretty good support cards. Mata Hari might just be worth keeping, if only for farming purposes.

edited 9th May '16 7:43:26 PM by SCMof2814

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#131: May 9th 2016 at 7:40:53 PM

You really should not spread around your experience. You were complaining about not having enough not too long ago, weren't you?

This is something you're going to have to get used to. Spreading around your experience cards is a terrible idea unless you're giving bronze exp cards to very low level servants.

Otherwise, resource management is very important. Not managing your resources properly results in underlevelled, underascended, underskilled servants. Yes, I know it's less 'fun' than just doing whatever, but then again, I'm not telling you to focus on servants you don't like, in fact, I'm telling you to concentrate on a few you do like and level them up first to the exclusion of everything else so you at least have a servant you can use in fights.

Of course, you didn't face Boss Tesla in Saber Wars. You don't know how miserable this game can make you if you don't upgrade your skills and relevant servants.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#132: May 9th 2016 at 7:45:39 PM

Hey, I get that. I generally pick 3 of each class to focus on (with the Support being someone in a difference class to bat cleanup, Avenjeane to round things out and either Mashu or someone with a 'Target Everyone' NP to clean up or support [Iris for now, since she heals]), it's just that raising bond levels in some get me access to their interludes, which means getting a quartz. Since they're not doing as much emergency maintenance right now, I have no other quartz sources!

edited 9th May '16 7:47:09 PM by SCMof2814

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#133: May 9th 2016 at 7:47:56 PM

Yeah, seriously. Having two or three max level Servants is is significantly better than having five or six mid-level ones. It's not about getting the most stats for each experience card, it's about using the fewest EXP cards to fully level up each Servant.

Also, while you CAN level up 3* and lower Servants, under 90% of all circumstances 4* and 5* Servants will be a better use of your time, since they both end up being more powerful and have generally better skills/N Ps.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#134: May 9th 2016 at 7:51:35 PM

Focus on getting some max level servants first, then worry about the Quartz. You'll get a lot of those from beating the story and free quests. If you don't have strong servants, you won't be able to do events efficiently, and trust me, you'll want those materials later on. Plus, the more each fight drags on because of your weak servants' low damage output, the more bored and frustrated you'll get with grinding.

Anyway, you don't need three servants of each class. Honestly, you don't even need two, given that you have Jeanne Alter. Avengers have no weaknesses, so you can take her against any team composition. The only thing she fears is Berserkers, and then again, everyone except Matthew fears Berserkers. Even other Berserkers.

Get one done first, then start work on the other. It'll be easier on you and getting the first done will make the process on the second be much faster and smoother.

[up]Actually, some lower star servants can be incredibly useful.

Hans, for instance, is very good as a buffbot. Leonidas is pretty great in a Berserker team, too. Hassan is honestly better than Stheno and while he can't compare to Jack or MHX (the former of whom is incredibly broken), he is a very good servant nonetheless. There's others, like George for his taunting skills and his ability to even make Siegfried a lot more useful.

Then, among three star servants, Cu Chulainn is still a pretty damn good survivor, Medea is a Rule Breaker Machinegun, Ushiwakamaru has a great buff and a fairly strong NP (I think only Deermud has a stronger NP), Matthew makes up for her low stats and story-locked level cap with an excellent set of skills... If you're willing to work a bit for them, the lower rarity servants can be great. The fact that you're practically guaranteed to get NP 5 on at least a few of them makes their low attack be far less noticeable.

Of course... you're still better off with five star servants. Especially since he has Jeanne Alter, who's one of the very best.

edited 9th May '16 7:56:47 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#135: May 9th 2016 at 7:55:47 PM

Avenjeane is currently locked at 60 until I can get that darned Infinity Gear, which means I need to farm the Lancers at Einzbern manor, which means I need Sabers... Ugh, I might have to do those quests at Rank A instead of EX, which always seems like a waste of exp.

Krika Since: Dec, 2010
#136: May 9th 2016 at 7:56:06 PM

You want Quality, not Quantity basically. I personally don't level up a Servant until I know I have the materials to ascend them fully - which is why I'm leveling up my Vlad, and not my Kintoki.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#137: May 9th 2016 at 7:58:34 PM

[up]How can you not level Best Bro?

Support Kintoki carried me through so many fights back when I started that I can't even remember how many fights came down to me frantically trying to keep Kintoki alive as my servants died like fleas around him. Of course, by the end of the Halloween event I had already rolled Jeanne so that became significantly easier thanks to her NP...

Anyway, quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.

[up][up]You might do quicker by taking Support Gilgamesh through fighting the Saber Automata. A level 90 Gilgamesh should tear through the A Rank automata quest like Homer Simpson through rice paper.

edited 9th May '16 7:59:32 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#138: May 9th 2016 at 8:03:08 PM

Unfortunately, the Infinity Gear needs Lancer coins.

Thank goodness for the Volumen Hydrargyrum CE. Best CE for Survival until I can get Hercules to Bond 10 and get his exclusive CE.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#139: May 9th 2016 at 8:08:30 PM

The automata drop infinity gears.

Also, if you haven't realized yet, getting to bond level 6? Takes more Bond Exp than levels 1 to 5 combined, and it only gets worse. You're not going to get there soon. Unless you plan to grind Bond Points like a madman, anyway.

edited 9th May '16 8:09:37 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#140: May 9th 2016 at 8:14:57 PM

Nah, I have a special party for my bond 10-ers, with the Berserkers leading and Mata Hari at the VERY back with a CE that gives everyone an extra 1000 HP. I'm using them to clean up the story quests, since Herc's in the lead, and between him, Kiyohime with Volumen Hydrargyrum and the guest support, that's usually all it takes to defeat Oceana enemies, and the story fights give a good Bond to AP ratio. I switch out to a different party for high-level farming.

edited 9th May '16 8:15:58 PM by SCMof2814

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#141: May 9th 2016 at 8:34:59 PM

Once more Cu absolutely refuses to go down to the event bosses, this time surviving a beating from Iskander after everyone else was taken out. Battle Continuation let him get back up and pop off a now ready Gae Bolg to finish off Iskander's last small bit of HP for me.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#143: May 10th 2016 at 3:11:03 AM

Then farm those materials, mang.

But no, seriously, Uncle Vlad is good, but Kintoki is just crazy good. Try to get the materials needed to ascend him soon, 'cause a Berserker with a single target buster NP who can pop it off almost immediately thanks to having an NP charge skill is just too good to pass up. Particularly when you have Kintoki's huge raw Attack.

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#144: May 10th 2016 at 3:56:35 PM

So, is Archer David good for anything? I figure I'd rather have hm in my all-Archer team than Arash the Suicider, but is there any special trick to him, like Billy being a crit-machine? Thanks for correcting me on that BTW IANCE. The guy crits so easily it's beautiful.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#145: May 10th 2016 at 4:11:05 PM

Billy's awesome. Personally, though, I love his design even more than his usefulness.

Anyway, David is very useful because of his team-wide dodge. That's basically a less costly, somewhat more limited Jeanne. He gets a one-attack dodge for the whole team, and since NP goes first, you can use it to avoid one or more charged attacks, depending on your luck.

He's not an offensive powerhouse, but he does increase survivability. A Charge Attack dodged is a charge attack survived... even mooks can deal massive amounts of damage with their Charge Attack.

Incidentally, new Gacha incoming, from what the news tell me.

Wonder if they're bringing Sita along so we can Netorare Rama.

edited 10th May '16 4:18:55 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#146: May 10th 2016 at 4:19:02 PM

David's kinda odd. He's got a White Mage skillset.

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SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#147: May 10th 2016 at 4:21:13 PM

Hopefully I get a Saber from this event. I seem to have better luck with event draws.

doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#148: May 10th 2016 at 4:22:06 PM

So, I've finally completed enough to unlock Iri. Now I just need to get her ascension mats. How can I cheat my way through the quests being underleveled? Once I unlock them anyway.

Drake is at level 50, Cu and Kid Gil at 40 with Nursery Rhyme at 43, and Shielder at 30.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#149: May 10th 2016 at 4:34:57 PM

Bring a Lancer to the Residential Area to back up your Casters when fighting against the Archer eyeball monster, Assassins should still do fine at the dock node, same goes for Casters for the Fuyuki Church node, and bring Archers to deal with the Saber Spriggan at Homurahara.

edited 10th May '16 4:39:55 PM by Nouct

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#150: May 10th 2016 at 4:37:49 PM

The friends codes here should get you support Servants that are a high-enough level to pull you through.

The Event guide, in case you didn't hav eit: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HD02IA_50uvsnoLBsL0GKBvy_knV-YRyv7UqZm56CJw/htmlview?sle=true#


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