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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121776: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:24:55 PM

Funny enough, Summer Melt is closer to her original characterization than regular Melt.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121777: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:34:24 PM

[up]X2 well they've done Nero and Tamamo, so unless they keep undermining him probably in the next big stream lol.

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TropayXion The i. one. from HEART Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The i. one.
#121778: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:40:24 PM

Watch as Emiya becomes the new main Servant for Extra. But he has the mullet.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121779: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:43:57 PM

Equivalent exchange

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121780: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:49:27 PM

I'm sure everyone will be satisfied with how the attention is allocated in Fate/ Extra Dose of Nero. tongue

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#121781: Sep 17th 2021 at 12:55:14 PM

Love how two pages developed developed from waifu (and Husbando) talk.

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Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121782: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:01:33 PM

I have a lot to say on Husbandos if one let's me

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#121783: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:08:14 PM

We would be willing to listen

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Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121784: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:14:56 PM

Okay, I will not prepare my 100 page thesis on why "Yes Douman will probably eat you alive, but he probably knows how to make it feel good, so I'd say is worth the risk!!"

But in all seriousness, I'm looking forward to Atlantis cause then I'd have seen how Moriarty, Sieg and Mandricardo were all handled in the whole "best friendship arc" thing and be able to write a proper meta on how close it is to the romantic arc female characters in the game usually have.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121785: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:20:10 PM

We would be willing to listen

That's a very bold "We" you put there.

I'd have seen how Moriarty, Sieg and Mandricardo were all handled in the whole "best friendship arc"

I honestly don't know what that is.

Edited by Shlugo_the_great on Sep 17th 2021 at 10:21:51 AM

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121786: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:22:28 PM

Too bad

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121787: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:24:46 PM

Yeah, I didn't know there was a story arc like that incoming. Sounds interesting.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121788: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:26:20 PM

How have you been in this fandom for years and not known about "best friend ever" Mandy?

Edited by Mami on Sep 17th 2021 at 9:26:56 AM

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121789: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:30:54 PM

I know about him, I just didn't know he had an arc with Sieg and Moriarty.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121790: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:33:19 PM

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying he Sieg and Moriarty had an arc together. I'm saying all three of their introductions were written with the theme of becoming Guda's very close friend, with Mandricardo being the only one to get the "Best Friend" title.

Since I realised that Higashide's probably wrote Atlantis, it's become a thing I get weirdly excited to think about. Of course the "friend" label pops the metaphorical bubble of my desires, but as it's the closest I can get I find it fascinating to dissect why he keeps doing this (even Astolfo from Apo had something similar with him and Sieg's relationship)

Edited by Mami on Sep 17th 2021 at 9:35:27 AM

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121791: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:39:56 PM

I see.

Was Sieg supposed to be such a close friend? I mostly remember him constantly apologizing for the inconvenience. Maybe I should reread the event story.

Grandpa Crimes is of course, our grandpa.

Wow, do the story really just says Ritsuka decided Mandricardo is his best friend? So much for blank slate I guess, though they were always inconsistent about that. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121792: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:43:11 PM

Sieg's whole thing is a bit more subtle but I found the focus on his and Guda's interactions pretty interesting to see especially with him leaving his terminal body behind in the end. Reading his character mats reinforced this feeling.

Moriarty's plans succeeding and failing because he considered Guda a friend is still the funniest thing ever.

Look forward to Atlantis. I've only seen a handful of his scenes, but they're all overwhelmingly endearing.

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#121793: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:43:59 PM

Maybe Higashide likes to categorize friendship and romantic attraction as separate things since Sieg's romantic interest in Apocrypha is supposed to be Jeanne.

If that's the case though, I can't say I find the appeal on that since I prefer relationships that start out as friendships -with some hints then and there- and then blossoms into a romance later on.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121794: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:48:04 PM

Perhaps! There's also Charlotte in Atlantis. I'm biased against her from the get go, but I also do genuinely want to see how well it'll be handled in comparison to Jeanne since I liked Anastasia's little arc between her bond lines and interludes.

Then again, it doesn't take much to be better written than Sieg X Jeanne.

Edited by Mami on Sep 17th 2021 at 9:48:37 AM

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#121795: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:51:21 PM

Ritsuka relations with Servants in the story are interesting, since while he gets along with all of them almost inexplicably well, the fact that each chapter features new supporting cast, kinda put a damp on things. These are more explored in interludes and events where there's more room to slow down and maybe fudge the continuity a bit.

In main story, the one person aside from Mash that Ritsuka seems to be specially close with is Musashi.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#121796: Sep 17th 2021 at 1:58:01 PM

Musashi has the advantage of not being a contracted servant who has (had) semi-regular appearance both in main stories and in events so she's pretty much a different beast compared to most other characters. Characters like Oberon, Castoria, Mandricardo and Melt get a lot of time focusing on them and their relationship with Guda, but it tends to be a one and done deal.

The only other character who has as much regular appearances is Dantes, but his relevancy tends to be restricted to cameos (and sometimes the writers tend to fail to acknowledge his persistent presence), but there tends to be more focus on how he feels about Guda than the other way around.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#121797: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:18:36 PM

That's a very bold "We" you put there.

If we can listen to you go on about how amazing the latest Saberface is, we can listen to Mami rant about Husbandos.

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#121798: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:20:39 PM

yknow, yall havent gotten a good tamamo rant out of me either lately. let's throw that onto the pile too!

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#121799: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:22:43 PM

Surprised we didn't see you go on about Koyanskya tbh.

Count me in for noticing Guda and Sieg tho; it helps that Guda tends to have better connections to individuals closer to his age bracket. Sieg is, for all intents and purpose, a fellow teenager as well as Mandi, so it just helps the bonding process.

And since Guda is more or less interpreted as a boy, it means you get tons of brotastic moments, and if that's not your think, you can at least feel good knowing female Guda finally has close male companions.

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#121800: Sep 17th 2021 at 2:27:38 PM

unfortunately life has kept me busy and away from tvtropes

but dont worry i do have opinions on koyan and i am so so so so so so so happy about her inclusion and i cant wait for her to get to NA

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae

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