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Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#1001: Oct 2nd 2018 at 1:16:05 PM

That was an excellent end to the season. I wonder if they're going to do season 4 or not. R.I.P. Gazef Stronoff. :'(

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doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#1002: Oct 6th 2018 at 6:06:06 AM

So is this a joke or something or are we actually getting an Overlord crossover with Konosuba and Re Zero?surprised

Edited by doineedaname on Oct 6th 2018 at 9:09:32 AM

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#1003: Oct 6th 2018 at 7:11:29 AM

I'm looking forward to Tanya meeting Ainz. As two former businessmen in new bodies they might get along...

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1004: Oct 6th 2018 at 10:40:48 AM

Doubt it. Ainz was a wage slave salary worker. Tanya was a ruthless lolbertarian Austrian School fanboy HR manager. Tanya would remind Ainz of every asshole boss he ever had to work with.

Edited by M84 on Oct 7th 2018 at 1:43:56 AM

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#1005: Oct 6th 2018 at 1:24:30 PM

[up]Well the OST for that fight has to be amazing.

Even if Tanya is pretty far below Ainz in firepower, she's got preeetty good mobility and range.

Edited by Adannor on Oct 6th 2018 at 11:24:13 AM

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#1006: Oct 14th 2018 at 1:46:07 PM

Ran into this video and it kinda backs my claim that Overlord could work as a deconstruction

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1007: Oct 14th 2018 at 3:49:29 PM

If you're that hungry for a "deconstruction", then might I recommend Goblin Slayer to you?

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#1008: Oct 14th 2018 at 4:00:30 PM

I've heard of and seen some of the 'edge' it has. I might check it, my statement is merely is that Overlord is gift wrapped to be a deconstruction.

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#1009: Oct 14th 2018 at 10:04:30 PM

Deconstruction needs some actual thought put into it. Gobbos have none of that whatsoever.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1010: Oct 14th 2018 at 10:17:34 PM

GS is built on the unfortunate implications of an Adventure-Friendly World akin to most tabletop game settings to the point that the gods treat the world as a tabletop game with dice rolls and everything.

It takes a look at the economics and politics that would lead to a world where monsters threaten the populace frequently enough that people can make a living by handling said threats, as well as the impact said attacks would have on a society's progress.

But it's also disingenuous to point at GS for deconstruction since it's not an isekai story. If one wants a deconstruction of the isekai genre specifically, one can look at Re: Zero instead.

Edited by M84 on Oct 15th 2018 at 1:19:04 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1011: Oct 14th 2018 at 10:26:12 PM

Re Zero even has What Ifs built entirely around Subaru embracing a Seven Deadly Sin at a certain moment in the story.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1012: Oct 14th 2018 at 10:41:25 PM

Kumo Desu Ga is more of a deconstruction of isekai than Overlord, but it's kind of cheating.

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#1013: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:36:58 PM

[up][up][up] The economics aren't anything new. The gobs just brings in hamfisted edgyrapeness while failing to actually account for any possible consequences of it - failing at exactly what a deconstruction is supposed to be doing.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1014: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:46:39 PM

[up]The consequence of goblin raids is a state of Medieval Stasis.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1015: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:47:22 PM

Because everyone knows that war never drove technological advancement.

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#1016: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:48:57 PM

Well it does take place in the boonies.

No one gives a fuck about the boonies especially when ya got demon lords popping up everyday to worry about.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1017: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:49:51 PM

Except it's not a war. It's repeated attacks on poor population centers which are ignored by higher-ups in favor of even greater threats.

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#1018: Oct 14th 2018 at 11:58:32 PM

Also Kumo Desu Ga is awesome, but I wouldn't pin it with a deconstruction badge either. It's an exploration of new space in the reincarny genre (well, was new, but there has been a flood of "reincarnated as something weird" premises too), not taking a dig at the established structure.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1019: Oct 15th 2018 at 12:10:16 AM

I was thinking more about the other reincarnators and their relationships when I said that, but yes, it's not really a deconstruction either. Just a perspective flip where the villain's group has the sympathetic POV, which kind of tears apart the assumed moral characters of both groups.

Edited by Arha on Oct 15th 2018 at 2:12:03 PM

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#1021: Nov 4th 2018 at 6:01:48 PM

Ahh, finally watching Season 3. This shit is still good stuff.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#1022: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:56:33 PM

So I binged the first three seasons over a couple of days. Good stuff.

I'm thinking about reading the light novels, how many are there and generally how long are they, if you don't mind me asking?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1023: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:52:42 PM

Twelve, I think? They're alright. There's a lot of detail in them that the anime skipped over or seemingly intentionally left out. Ainz is an evil, evil bastard and his minions are worse.

They're not terribly long or short.

Edited by Arha on Nov 12th 2018 at 7:53:08 AM

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#1024: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:57:19 PM

13, and I think 8 were translated by Yen Press.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#1025: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:29:39 PM

The LN goes into a lot more detail about the thought processes of the characters. And it's not pretty. The LN makes no bones about the fact that Momonga and his den of monsters are, well, monsters. Sure they play nice with each other, but they play the Card-Carrying Villain horrifically straight (especially Demiurge).

Edited by M84 on Nov 12th 2018 at 10:30:24 PM

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