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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#101: Jul 25th 2023 at 2:49:05 AM

Electricity and Water is next:

Streets now carry low voltage electricity cables. These connect to transformer stations, which in turn are connected to power stations with high voltage power lines.

You also have to think a bit more about evenly distributing power to where it is needed to avoid bottlenecks.

And now you can also import and export electricity with neighbouring cities.

Another new feature is battery stations, which store excess energy.

Water is now divided in two sources: surface and ground water.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#102: Aug 1st 2023 at 6:00:33 AM

Next video is on the maps.

You can build much bigger cities now, and you can build tiles not connected to your current play area, enabling you to build distant exclaves.

Terrain is much more vertical, which allows for much more varied enviroments.

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#103: Aug 7th 2023 at 4:03:09 PM

Climate and Seasons.

Not only are we getting dynamic seasons, but we are also getting a dynamic day/night cycle. All of which is influenced by the latitude of the city, so warmer latitudes will have less extreme seasonal cycles.

Also disasters will be in the base game.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#104: Aug 7th 2023 at 4:23:31 PM

Cool.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#105: Aug 14th 2023 at 10:01:09 AM

Next up is the economy:

It promises quite a bit of depth finetuning the economy, if you want to go into that, but you don't need to.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 14th 2023 at 7:01:20 PM

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#106: Aug 14th 2023 at 10:24:35 AM

I'm unreasonablely happy that we'll be able to get farms that actually look like farms. For whatever reason, that's something city builders often struggle with.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#107: Aug 14th 2023 at 10:35:12 AM

Me too, it would be cool to build up an actual countryside.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#108: Aug 14th 2023 at 10:59:48 AM

Edit: Huh, posts came back. That was odd.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 14th 2023 at 8:00:16 PM

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#109: Aug 22nd 2023 at 6:11:31 AM

Next is milestones, XP, and upgrading services:

It is basically an extension of the old milestone system, with a much more flexible and extensive system of earning XP, so no more arbitrary population gates.

Also, public services now have their own little tech trees you can spend XP on.

Edited by Redmess on Aug 22nd 2023 at 3:11:59 PM

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#110: Aug 29th 2023 at 1:52:05 AM

Next up is citizen simulation, which seems to be pretty sophisticated. Each sim will have their own life that you can check in on to see how your citizens are doing. They will also post on Chirper, which will be a handy tool to track problems in your city: your sims will tell you what's going on.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#111: Sep 5th 2023 at 2:59:13 AM

Next up: sound and music:

Looks like we're getting a pretty complex soundscape.

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#112: Sep 5th 2023 at 7:38:19 PM

More realistic sounds are always nice.

A problem I had with the plazas and promenades DLC was that if you zoomed into a district with no traffic, you'd hear a bunch of phantom traffic noises. This shouldn't be a problem in CS:2 if the traffic sound is based more directly on the actual flow of traffic.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#113: Sep 6th 2023 at 3:29:06 AM

From the looks of it, every object and building now produces its own distinct sound, and the game distils the resulting din down into something that sounds more coherent. It is an interesting way to build a soundscape, one that seems rather complex for a game like this, but this is the series that gave us water physics in a game that arguably didn't really need them.

Optimism is a duty.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#114: Sep 8th 2023 at 12:05:14 PM

Welp, it's that time again. A Paradox game is about to come out, so it's time for the Spiffing Brit to absolutely destroy it.

For context, Spiffing Brit is a Youtuber whose whole thing is playing simulation or strategy games, finding exploits that totally unbalance said game and stretching those exploits and oversights until he can completely wreck or cheat a standard playthrough using just things readily available in the game (stuff like winning Civ VI without ever building a city, abusing divorces to become a billionaire in Crusader Kings, etc).

He and Paradox have a pretty good relationship, and they often reach out to and sponsor to him to publicly playtest and/or run roughshod over their games for exploits close to release.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#115: Sep 8th 2023 at 12:10:29 PM

Yeah, it's a pretty brilliant way to playtest your games and create publicity at the same time.

Optimism is a duty.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#116: Sep 8th 2023 at 12:16:37 PM

This one reminded me a lot of the "beat Civilization without building a city" challenge he did, too. He basically asked "how far will the game allow me to get without doing any of the intended city stuff whatsoever and just building one house for one person?"

Turns out, pretty darn far.

I don't know if they're going to adjust the thing with the maintenance costs on wind turbines (it's definitely an easy way of earning money that the developers didn't seem to catch, but at the same time it requires dedicating so much of your building space and playtime to it that it's not necessarily affecting a standard playthrough), but it might give them something to think about in terms of city rank progression, and the bit where he's able to stop a fire by bulldozing the stuff that's on fire is almost certainly getting patched out.

Also the "build stuff outside of city limits, but still get benefits from them" thing, holy shit.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 8th 2023 at 12:22:41 PM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#117: Sep 8th 2023 at 12:23:24 PM

My favourite bug so far: someone dying of old age before they could even properly move into the city. This was, note, the third person moving in.

The weird wind shenanigans going on at the border of the player area are probably going to be patched too.

Edited by Redmess on Sep 8th 2023 at 9:39:02 PM

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#118: Sep 10th 2023 at 2:23:02 AM

Lots of the regular city builder youtube people have gotten access to a test build and permission to post a half hour video on everything through the first 4 milestones.

Here's one I found

Road management definitely goes a lot further then I expected even from the previews. For example instead of choosing between a "road with trees", "road with grass and trees" each side of the road can be individually set to have trees, grass or both.

Also there are parking decks for places where you need a lot of extra parking. Which I don't think was shown in the previews, I certainly didn't see it anyways.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#119: Sep 10th 2023 at 5:51:26 AM

Yes it was, it was mentioned in one of the early videos.

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#120: Sep 10th 2023 at 10:17:24 AM

Parking lots were definitely discussed, but I don't remember parking decks being mentioned.

It also looks like there will be both above and below ground options, which will make it much easier to work more parking space into an area that has outgrown the initial setup.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#121: Sep 10th 2023 at 11:06:16 AM

You mean the building, right? I think I spotted one at some point, and another update did mention that you could expand buildings with parking as well, I think.

But yeah, that really changes the equation a lot, right?

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#122: Sep 10th 2023 at 1:25:22 PM

Spiff is just scratching the surface, though. Here is a video from someone who really went above and beyond stretching this game to its limits:

This is a beta build, by the way, so very much not finished yet.

Optimism is a duty.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#123: Sep 10th 2023 at 2:42:28 PM

This video (which manages to be pretty informative besides all the comedy) shows someone building a massive metropolis housing 300,000 sims, who are all being simulated individually.

This is pretty amazing.

Optimism is a duty.
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#124: Sep 11th 2023 at 8:07:40 AM

I got to wonder how much is actually being simulated individually and how much is abstracted away when you aren't looking at it.

Individually simulating hundreds of thousands of moving parts that all interact with each other should turn most CPU's into molten slag, so if it can actually run well on the optimization is impressive to say the least.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#125: Sep 11th 2023 at 8:56:22 AM

I'm sure someone will run the simulation through its paces and see what it actually can and cannot do once the game is released.

Optimism is a duty.

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