Street Fighter V

Just look at Tekken and Lucky Chloe. I make up characters myself quite a bit and some of them click, some however do not. It's not just a case of making a look and moves and calling it a day. It needs to be worked to appeal to an audience.

There's also all the balancing and adjustments that take place before the character can really be implemented. This is also Street Fighter we're talking about, it has some of the most technical and advanced players around. There's really no room for error.

Play around with a game that allows custom moves some time. See how easy it is to make a under or overpowered character.

I still see 16 as being pretty much exactly the standard, even though these days that's a bit more old fashioned a view: it's a good number of varied characters that - with a good design team - should have enough variety to satisfy a wide array of player types. Anything beyond that is pretty much extra - really awesome to have, but not being really necessary for the game to be good on launch..

Since IV was basically designed as the Street Fighter Reunion Special, I wonder if V will have a bigger percentage of original characters.

If Rainbow Mika doesn't get in this time, I think people will riot.

looks like we're getting proper match this weekend. Hopefully we'll get a character reveal.

I hope Alex gets in this game. He was suppose to be the new face of SF but then he ended up neglected in favor of Ryu and Ken.

edited 8th Dec '14 6:13:40 PM by odiefromtheoz

Double post, but someone on the last page asked for alternatives to a reboot storyline so i thought I'd give it a try.

I figure if it's a proper reboot it should start with the Alpha series rather than the original street fighter, since a lot of what makes Street Fighter Street Fighter wasn't really in place, so i figure you can use Ryu's time in the tournament as a good backstory. It would largely be the same as in the games, Ryu is nearly defeated by the reigning champ Sagat but he taps into his "killing Intent" and defeats him with a near fatal blow.

Following this intense urge of violence, the now champion Ryu has a bit of a self crisis, and decides to return home to his master Gouken to seek Advice. On his way there, he ends up getting into a tuffle (potentially with Birdie or Dan) drawing the attention of Officer Chun-Li. Chun figures that despite his odd appearance Ryu isn't a criminal and let's him go, but not before asking him out to a local festival. I figure this would be a good way of giving Chun her iconic outfit.

Once there however we find out Chun-Li is actually INTERPOL OFFICER CHUN-LI, working on a case to reveal M. Bison's inhumane experiments. Interpol got word from an inside source that Bison would begin a tournament of those he deemed "the World's Strongest" for his own amusement, and potentially more secretive reasons. Seeing this as an opportunity to get someone inside Shadowloo, they send Chun-Li to tail Ryu and steal his invitation, but her sense of justice forces her to intervene his fight and come up with a quick solution.

Unfortunately she misses her mark and Ryu receives his invitation through his phone (I figure Ryu wouldn't have a phone of his own so ken bought for him to keep in touch) and is officially part of the tournament. Adon appears as his first opponent, wanting to prove himself Sagat's better, but misses Ryu and fights Chun instead. Chun wins, impressing Bison enough to earn her own spot in the tournament.

Ryu continues home only to find Ken has beaten him there, and that Gouken has died. The story would shift to Ken as we see he has become the champion of North America (I figure Nash would be second as a way to justify him being in the tournament, and a more proactive attempt by Interpol to get a guy inside) and has returned in hopes of a reunion with Ryu. Having arrived early he and Gouken spent some time reminiscing, and sparring. Unfortunately the time is cut short when Akuma shows up, and seemingly lands a killing blow on Gouken.

After hearing this, Ryu is overcome with Killing Intent once more, albeit briefly. At the sight of this Ken quickly deduces Ryu is succumbing to the same power as Akuma. Unsure of where to go, Ken receives Bison's invitation on his own phone, with the promise of his participation being rewarded with a chance for vengeance against Akuma. Figuring they owe it to their master to bring his killer to justice, they decide to seperate and enter the tournament, albeit a bit uneasy about their new situation.

From there, the game would jump around various characters and their goings on during the tournament. We'd also see criminals like Sodom and Birdie trying to get in, and wannabes like Dan and Sakura doing the same. The majority of the story would be following Chun and Nash trying to stop Bison, and ken and ryu trying to stop Akuma. To this end Chun would council with her old friend Gen, and Ryu would be sought by the mysterious Rose.

At some point, Ken would meet Gen who reveals the secret of Gouken's power to him, and the true nature of Akuma's. Ken learns that Gouken gained his sagely strength from 'nothing', emptying his soul and gaining transcental power. Akuma however could tap into the latent killing intent of all mankind, and gain similar strength. Figuring this is what's happening to Ryu, Ken hopes to attain the same strength as Gouken to defeat Akuma, and save Ryu.

However Ryu is instead visited by the ever ethereal Rose, who he seeks council with to help understand his predicament. Rose, being the expelled 'good' side of Bison, says she can assist Ryu in expelling the Shisui no Hado from him. However, Rose instead takes Ryu on a journey of self discovery. In the end, Ryu learns he cannot simply ignore the parts of himself he doesn't like.

Eventually the tournament comes to Shadaloo proper, where Chun and Nash come under suspicion from Bison. Luckily, the secretive vigilante Guy looks to assist them. Upon their reunion, Ken and Ryu have one last fight, where Ken gives Ryu his red head band and cuts his hair, and the two become the icons we know them as.

In the end, Ken is the one to face Akuma, while Ryu instead takes on the enhanced Psycho Bison. Ken manages to control the Power of Nothingness in a white hot Shoryuken, sealing the Shisui no Hado in Akuma and effectively gimping him. Ryu learns a more nuanced lesson, tapping into the Shisui no Hado, he defeats Bison (With some help from a dying Nash) and ends his reign. Ryu learns that he can't expel the parts of him he doesn't like as Bison did, or indulge in them as Akuma. Instead, he learns that while the Shisui No hado is part of him, and he can't suppress it, he will never cross the line Akuma did and take a life.

I also had some vague ideas about some of the other characters. I figured Bison would be a Kim Jong style Dictator, one the normal populace doesn't consider too threatening but the world governments do. To that end, Balrog would sort of be his Dennis Rodman, an eccentric celebrity he keeps around to lift his spirits. I also figured Bison could use Cody as a way to satiate Akuma while waiting for Ryu and Ken. Cody would be able to hold his own but his half hearted style would keep Akuma from taking the fights seriously either, keeping him from going full Shin.

Anyway that's my two centd.

All I hope is that the PS 4 doesn't lag like the PS 3 allegedly did.

Only sixteen characters is a big bummer, though. I'm also a little wary of the rumored addition of OT Gs.

edited 9th Dec '14 10:12:55 AM by MetaSkipper

Sixteen is fine so long as the game, as a whole, is sufficiently stepped-up from IV. Haven't seen the footage yet, so I can't say I know how that'll fall.

Though this does mean favorites are going to get side-lined. I'm amongst those that'd like to see Alex, R. Mika and Q to return, but I'd also like to keep characters like Rolento, Dan and Cody. I'm just about certain that some of the characters I just named will definitely not be making into this roster. At least, not this version of it. I'm certain there'll be more versions later, and I'm OK with that.

Who do we think is safe? Not including Ryu and Chun-Li, of course. I have a hard time imagining any of the original eight are out. I'd also say Akuma is easily in the clear. Other than that, I don't know. I'd say Dan has good chances, as he is considerably popular, but even that isn't a sure thing.

Only 16? Well 16 is a fine roster number for a new series but this is Street fighter and they betetr have a lot of new faces if it's going to be that small.

Has anyone thought that maybe 16 is the number before unlockable characters.....? In that case it would be the same as SFIV's starting roster.

Also I hope II's characters are put on the back burner for this game. Focus on III, Alpha, and a bunch of new ones. I hope for like 7-9 new characters.

That, I think, is the likely outcome.

Besides Ryu and Chun Li, it's safe to say that Akuma is definitely in as well. Ken is probably a shoo-in too.

edited 9th Dec '14 4:08:23 PM by KnownUnknown

There's gonna be at least one grappler, so either Zangief or Alex are assuredly getting in. I just hope Hakan returns.

Man what an odd decision it was to make the face of SF 3 a grappler.

Birdie and Alex or riot.

I also need Poison back. Can't live without my main.

I want Sakura, Makoto, Karin and Sean.

No Ibuki, no buy.

On another note, Ken, Cammy, M.Bison and those types of legacy characters are safe. The newer characters are kind of in shaky ground (except Juri. People like Juri...)

edited 10th Dec '14 8:29:59 AM by nigelstack345

Oh, fuuuuck, Sean!!! Yo, I need Sean. Like, nooow. Oh, and freaking Oro! God I love III.

While I do agree a few legacy characters will sneak in, I hope they're unlockable or extra so they kinda stay out of the way.

I'm not gonna pretend like I'm not biased, I basically want a SFIII roster with a bunch of newbies and afew older characters.

SF 3 probably has the best roster of any fighting game I've played. There's not a single character I don't like, either design wise or gameplay wise. I like a lot of 4's cast as well, Fuerte, Hakan, Juri, and Gouken are great, but i'd trade each of em for a 3 character.

As much as I like Gouken, he feels like a second release character. I do hope Juri sticks around.

I'm curious about how many new characters we might get, too. Hope they're awesome.

Man really? SF 3 actually has a bit of a Broken Base regarding its cast. I know at one point it was considered the SF 3 series' flaws.

honestly I can see how, a bit heavy on head swaps, shakily balanced, a bit too fantastical for SF...like the designs are good but eh compared to Guilty Gear, Dark Stalkers, or early Soul Edge/Calibur and Samsho I'd have to say no.

I like the SF 3 cast and more than the SF 2/4/EX members for sure(maybe not Alpha) but I feel like other fighting games have more interesting rosters.

I know personally I dislike playing as Makoto/Akuma/Yang/Twelve. I do like how the grapplers and Urien feel though, so much impact and it rocks.

edited 10th Dec '14 9:11:38 PM by Vertigo_High

You know this is the series with supers like this now, right?

SF 3 guys can't come close to this.

Don't know what you're talking about. Everywhere I go, third strike is considered one of the best fighters around, if not THE best Street Fighter. SSF 4 and S Fx T also had III characters as the most requested additions to the cast, and I've seen people call it the most balanced fighter to little resistance.

Let's get something straight.

3rd strike is one of the most beloved S Fs, not SF 3 series as a whole. NG and SI don't get NEARLY as much love and didn't when they first came out. The cast is popular but the SF 2 cast are the most iconic to the series and if you ask most gamers to name their favorite 10 SF characters I bet you most will be dominated by SF 2 or Alpha characters.

3rd Strike is mainly popular among the competitive crowd or more hardcore fighting game players, who have a LOUD vocal minority on the internet so online you can get the impression 3rd Strike is more popular than it really is. Like it's popular competitively but moreso than SF 2? There's a reason whenever there's crossover SF 2 always hogs up most of the space.

3S has fantastic gameplay but balance is not why, Chun Li/Yun/Ken are a bit too good and the gap between them and the bottom tier is pretty big. And if you take into account what they did to Sean from 2nd impact, one can start to see how 3S's balance isn't one of its strong suits. I don't know who's telling you it's the most balanced fighter because a lot of 3S fans will flat out admit the balance isn't one of the game's strengths, but rather the options the players themselves have and strategy the mechanics bring to the gameplay. Not to mention the wonderful animations and sprite work/sound direction.

The parry system gets a lot of love but some hate how much it centralizes competitive play, personally I suck at parrying so you can imagine how many of my 3rd strike experiences against good players go. That said it's still MY favorite Street fighter but I can't say the same about its roster despite Yun being one of my favorite SF characters ever and having my favorite iterations of Ken/Chun/Ryu.

edited 10th Dec '14 9:40:43 PM by Vertigo_High