Why Does Anime (and its fans) Get Such a Bad Rep?

Money is also a factor. The Japanese company could call for a price that's too high for the dubbing company to afford.

But was there more to it than the fanservice?

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

Not sure what the point of that would be. Licensing to a dub company doesn't really cost the original creator a whole lot. Creation is a sunk cost so they only really need to charge enough to cover their overhead a make a bit of profit to make it worth it and the markets are separate so there is no competition factor. Popular stuff probably costs more bc the dub companies would bid against each other to a degree, say, alot of the stuff Funi dubs, I be they are the only one wanted to, so they probably get it relatively cheaply. The limiting factor is if the dub companies think they can make enough to cover their costs more than anything.

not really. Go Nagai, the creator of fanservice itself, put it in because he really like Playboy.

Watch Symphogear

Let me explain...

Was there anything more to these shows than the promise of fanservice?

There was an aim to these shows other than fanservice, right?

edited 1st Dec '14 6:32:51 PM by Aldo930

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

To entertain.

The fanservice is just part of that.

Watch Symphogear

I actually think the core reason why the fanbase isn't respected is because it doesn't respect itself.

I'm gonna have to ask you to elaborate.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

I remember hearing about some company being worried about reverse importing. Basically people who want to buy the Blu-rays picking the cheapest (least profitable) way to do it.

edited 1st Dec '14 7:05:03 PM by supermerlin100

That's the trouble of adapting to customers today. With the internet and with technology being better than it's ever been, people want things instantaneously, or, the soonest they can get to see it. Customers are fickle. They expect things online to be free. It's no longer a need to have something in your hands in order to support something, they just want to SEE IT, even if it's on an illegal stream. And unfortunately, once you see a show once, you don't feel the need to see it again, even when the show is relicensed for America, or the dub comes out, or it's rereleased as a box set, or is once again rerun on TV. The streams comes out before all that, and gives them less of a chance to be profitable.

edited 1st Dec '14 7:37:57 PM by kyun

There are almost no shows that are exclusively designed to be fanservice, aside from the literal porn. Not even To Love Ru Darkness(or so I heard) and High School Dx D(first-hand experience on this one) do that, even if they seem like they were made while the other hand was busy multitasking.

edited 2nd Dec '14 12:55:06 AM by YuukiAsuna

MMORPGs are serious business.

If reverse importing makes sense, then something is terrible wrong somewhere.

Anime seem to treat fanservice as a form of comedy. You basicly either accept that or don't. The crafted ridiculous stuff like you mention doesn't bother me as much as the wacky camera angles you sometimes get in an otherwise serious show.

edited 2nd Dec '14 2:28:51 AM by kiukiuclk

I know on off topic forums elsewhere anime fans or rather guys with anime icons are notorious for being unable to hold discussion on real life important topics and tend to say some pretty vile crap.

Seeing as anime is a magnet for a lot of antisocial types and misanthropes for multiple reasons one can see where that stereotype comes from.

I try not to talk about real life issues online for various reasons.

edited 2nd Dec '14 3:36:47 PM by PhysicalStamina

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.

Two words answer the original question: fuckin' weebs.

Judo is my waifu

Which I'm afraid it'd have to be my answer to your

Suffice to say before going into powderkeg territory, the manganime fanbase overall has a terrible problem of self image and self doubt, and any group that is plagued by that won't command any respect from anyone else.

edited 3rd Dec '14 2:19:41 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Seeing it from a psychological point of view (I'm no psychologist myself), the disdain for anime shown by some can be seen as the titular response of 'I'm too old for cartoons (god I hate that mentality)'. Some people try to distance themselves from what they liked as kids (myself I started watching anime when I was about 11 years old or something with the likes of Elfen Lied and Speed Grapher). Some people see it as a right of passage into adult hood when they develop the attitude and personality that anything they deem non-consumable for their 'honed adult minds' is not worthy of their time and commitment such as cartoons (I'm using cartoons as a starting point to link to anime). This may be because they were raised by parents from the 1950's or 70's or whatever some of whom had or have the mentality that cartoons are for kids and thus instilled that mentality into their children when they segregated viewing content and thus the child then believed abadoning cartoons would mean they have grown up and have become more 'mature' to watch adult content...the childs parents were likely raised by religious parents (I'm sure we can figure out what that meant...or not)

BUY PART TWO OF MY BOOK FOR FURTHER READING...just kidding, have to go to sleep got exams. I'm sure I can make sense of this with help of course. And I like fanservice, WAT!

edited 3rd Dec '14 3:35:30 PM by Caltrop

As someone who's taken a psychology class, I can also suggest the idea that anime just does not appeal to some people.

Maybe, just maybe, the reason some people don't like anime is that it does not appeal to them.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."

Yeah that's just a fact not everything appeals to everyone. My partner can be into some weird things and I'll be like 'hell no we are not doing that!'...back to the point that's a fact I agree with, some people find it too violent. But goddamn it if I'm on an explanatory role I can't help it and we must consider all sides to the issue there is some truth in what I'm slowly bringing up and there is falsehood but as I said its an explanation in progress. Well at least its an explanation.