My Hero Academia

Also, just because they had the long term repercussions in mind, doesn't mean the heroes didn't want to save a little girl because saving a little girl is the right thing to do.

They're not mutually exclusive things, you know.

The Japanese really do like their foreign imagery.

It’s why a lot of anime & games always manage to have a reference to Norse mythology even if there’s nothing particularly Norse about the story.

Edited by slimcoder on May 28th 2020 at 1:40:13 AM

Fantasy in general has a stiffie for Norse myth.

Blame Tolkien.

Actually, I want to go back because there's something else there I didn't really notice:

What is actually the complaint here? That Heroes only do things about stuff they're aware of? That the Heroes aren't omnipotent and thus don't always know every single time a person is being hurt to go and stop it?

Because while those things are true, they just sort of fall under the purview of being human and unchangeable.

Edited by LSBK on May 28th 2020 at 4:18:55 AM

Tenko's situation is completely different from Eri's. The heroes were made aware of Eri by Eri herself attempting to run away from Chisaki if I recall correctly. Tenko in contrast was some random heavily traumatized kid wandering the streets and Tenko himself didn't ask directly for help (although admittedly I can't blame him considering what happened). I doubt any of the civilians he came across were secretly heroes in disguise and even if they were the heroes likely didn't get to him in time. The timeframe between when he had his explosive quirk awakening that killed his family and when All for One found him seems pretty small.

Another difference is that Eri only accidentally killed one person when her quirk awakened and judging by it her dad was caring, not to mention she wasn't nabbed by All for One immediately. Tenko accidentally killed atleast 4 people and his dog and intentionally killed his dad.

While their is some paralells between their backstories there is some big differences. The biggest one is All for One wasn't waiting to immediately corrupt Eri because she wasn't related to Nana Shimura.

Edited by Wispy on May 28th 2020 at 2:32:13 AM

That kind of makes it seem Af O already had tabs on the family and waited for the worst possible outcome to happen so he could scoop up Shiggy

That's how I've been thinking of it - he didn't cause what happened to happen, but he certainly didn't just happen upon Tenko after that tragedy.

Edited by LSBK on May 28th 2020 at 4:31:06 AM

I think it's more likely that he was watching and waiting for the right time to strike, and then had the good luck to see the entire debacle go down. It does explain how he just happened stumble across the kid so quickly, but also preserves the All For One didn't actually cause it to happen theory.

He'd have done something eventually I think, but fate had something else in store.

Edit: 'ed.

Edited by HandsomeRob on May 28th 2020 at 3:36:28 AM

The whole point of that scene is that in this world nobody bothers to help because everyone thinks 'leave it to the heroes'.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on May 28th 2020 at 2:38:38 AM

I am pretty sure All for One was keeping tabs on Nana's remaining family. It wouldn't even be hard for him considering all his underground connections and quirks he collected. While he likely didn't set up what happened to Tenko he was likely keeping eyes on Tenko and his family. I highly suspect that All for One may of intended to kill Tenko and his family initially behind the scenes but he changed plans once Tenko's quirk awakening occurred.

That's a problem with society as a whole, not the heroes themselves.

Edited by Wispy on May 28th 2020 at 2:39:42 AM

Ah bystander syndrome, the thing that sparked Rorschach to action.

The way AFO finds Tenko is incredibly suspicious. The great mastermind of the underworld comes to personally pick up some random kid hiding under a bridge?

I think that city had one of AFO's hideouts and his informants were well aware of Tenko. I think it's also why the civillians dont dare to interfere with Tenko, because of AFO's presence (even tho they probably weren't aware of him directly). Like, they saw a kid with a haunted face, they figured it was shady underground business.

But yea, Nighteye took longer with the rescue of Eri not because he didn't care, but because he didn't want to fail. He was afraid that moving in too early would just spook Overhaul and they'd never see Eri again. The entire point of the stake-outs and confirming her location was all about maximizing the chance of her rescue.

Besides, with how much control Overhaul had on Eri, and how brutal and ruthless Overhaul is, Mirio and Deku would've died if they'd pressured him further. Or worse, he would just kill Eri. They can't save her from death, but Chisaki can.

I doubt any random civillian that Tenko came across, if they hypothetically did try to help him or atleast comfort him until the authorities showed up, would of been able to stop All for One from taking him anyways.

There are many ways that could have gone. Especially given that 1. The family was obviously troubled and 2. That Kotaro really hated heroes. For all we know, he was wondering about what would be the most amusing way to proceed when Tenko wound up being a force of destruction.

[x6] I know, I was just trying to point out that if was hero not saving him (since you brought up the possibility), it would ruin the whole meaning.

You know, it's funny that Shigaraki's issues with his father were mostly due to having different opinions on heroes, but in the end he ended up sharing his views. Yeah, I know this is a extreme oversimplification, but the Dramatic Irony still stands. Kotaro's abuse accomplished exactly what he wanted in the end.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on May 28th 2020 at 2:54:18 AM

Yeah but if someone someone had helped him before AFO did that would have made a massive difference on the kind of outlook Tomura had on it all and the kind of control AFO would have over him.

Edited by Druplesnubb on May 28th 2020 at 11:53:19 AM

It wouldn't really matter. AFO groomed him for years, and Tomura forgot much about that time. AFO would just lie and tell him he was one of his underlings or something, not a hero.

I like to think that AFO considered Tomura and his family initially as one potential asset, without any concrete plan for them, and just making it up once Tomura*s quirk manifested itself. It seems more "realistic" but still sets him up as a frightening schemer. I mean think about it, the knowledge alone that he could kill the family of his hated enemy, at any time he choose to, must have been extremely satisfying for him. AFO had no reason to act hastily. Or maybe he had something planned and Tomura provided him with an even better opportunity.

And no doubt AFO would have had the ressources to twist any help Tomura received by a civilian to make it appear as if said civilian intented to betray him. The possibilities are endless.

Edited by Zarastro on May 28th 2020 at 1:24:44 PM

Alright, first spoilers of #273 are out, and... MLA starts to move out, Toga is pissed and Endeavour(pretty pissed as well) reaches Shigaraki.

Man, Linkspooky's blog gives me such mixed feelings. It has genuine moments of interesting analysis and lots of the posts start out pretty promising, but then it stans for the villains or demonizes the heroes and instantly diminishes its earlier points.

I mean the tagline is "no heroes only villains" so I guess I should expect it, but still. Sucks.

Stuff like this makes it impossible to take their metas seriously:

Sure, let's blame Endeavor for not feeling sorry about a backstory he doesn't even know...

Sounds like Toga is gonna start shanking heroes something fierce.

Endeavor is going to job to Shiggy isn't he

Most likely, but at least one of the Top has to keep standing, anyway.

The question being is he gonna die or not?

I'd honestly consider it a waste to kill off Endeavor so soon after becoming #1; if him isolating himself from his family is meant to be his end, then it's sure as hell a depressing one, but let's wait and see