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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1926: Jun 28th 2021 at 7:44:53 AM

Kazuya explained:

  • He turns to face his opponent automatically during one-on-one fights.
  • His combo game is based around grounded combos.
    • Flash Punch Combo and 10 Hit Combo are performed by pressing A repeatedly with the logical timing.
  • Devil form is used for Smash and Special attacks (all using standard Smash Bros inputs), up throw, and midair jump.
  • Just like I was starting to think, he has "full crouch" moves.
    • It seems EWGF is his only "while rising" move.
  • Just like Tekken, his unique attacks use the 8 directions, but they're limited to tilts.
  • He also has a "while running" attack in addition to his regular dash attack.
  • Crouch dash is a special stance entered with the Dragon Punch input.
    • WGF, EWGF, Hellsweep, and some other moves can be entered from this stance.

The Mishima Dojo stage:

  • Destructible walls and ceiling like Shadow Moses Island.
  • Heihachi gets up and notices when you KO
  • The inscription is still there!

Lol, Devil Kirby.

39 Music tracks!

No new Tekken Mii costumes...

  • Shantae is a Mii costume... At least she looks good.
  • Mii costumes also include Dohvakiin, Lloyd Irving, and featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series.

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#1927: Jun 28th 2021 at 8:48:20 PM

No word on spirits?

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#1928: Jun 28th 2021 at 10:41:04 PM

Spirits are shown sometime in the latter half

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1929: Jun 29th 2021 at 4:52:05 PM

As pointed out in the Smash thread, someone made a command list for Kazuya in Smash.

It reminds me of the command lists for Mortal Kombat and other 2D fighters, actually.

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powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1930: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:24:51 PM

So, I have a question: Are the older Tekken games (like 1-4) available on the PS3 store? I ask because I’m liking Kazuya in Smash.

I do have Tekken 3 but it’s the Play Station Classic version running at 50hz as opposed to 60hz.

Why not get 7, you may ask? I need to limit spending for the time being so it’s just cheaper for me to get the older games right now.

Edited by powerpuffbats on Jun 29th 2021 at 10:25:01 AM

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#1931: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:41:33 PM

[up] To my knowledge, only the first two games are. Tekken 3, last I heard, wouldn't be available due to Gon. As for Tekken 4, I heard it was supposed to be backwards compatible with PS 3 but when I tested it, no luck.

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#1932: Jun 29th 2021 at 8:45:03 PM

So for 3 and 4 I’d have to get the discs then.

Shouldn’t be too expensive but looks like it’ll most likely be 2 I start with.

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#1933: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:18:26 PM

Only some models of PS 3 are backwards compatible, if you meant testing a physical copy.

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#1934: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:24:40 PM

I have a PS 2 slim so I’m covered on PS 2 discs. Neither of my two PS 3’s are PS 2 compatible.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1935: Jun 29th 2021 at 9:46:05 PM

Alas, yeah, I got a PS 2 Slim exclusively because neither of my P S3s (the one that works, and the one that had a hardware issue that Sony doesn't care to fix...) were backwards compatible. I wanted to be able to play Soul Calibur 3 (the game that introduced me to Tekken, by way of the preview disc included with it) and Wipeout Fusion.

I just now realized that we have Sonic (my favorite game series) to thank for me being a Tekken fan. Beyond Sonic making me a gamer in the first place, that is:

  • I'm a Tekken fan because I had some familiarity with it when I played it at a friend's place.
  • But again, I only was familiar with Tekken because of the preview disc that came with Soul Calibur 3, which included the opening scene for Tekken 5.
  • I only had SC 3 because I got a PS 2 for it, because I was a fan of the series after playing SC 2 on Gamecube.
  • But I only played SC 2 on Gamecube because it was on a preview disc, a very cheap one that also included demos for Sonic Adventure DX, Billy Hatcher, and Viewtiful Joe.
  • I got that preview disc because I wasn't sure if I wanted to buy Sonic DX, but did want some of the bonuses that came on that disc.
  • And of course, I bougth a Gamecube because that was the de facto home of Sonic after Sega stopped making consoles.

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#1936: Jun 30th 2021 at 6:27:42 AM

So does this mean in the Smash universe Kazuya outranks Sephiroth who outranks the god hand thing who outranks an army of Master Hands.

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#1937: Jun 30th 2021 at 7:57:21 AM

I mean, it's impressive that Kazuya managed to defeat Ganondorf, but Sephiroth straight up one-shot Galeem.

That being said, I still think Kazuya is much more powerful than some people believe. No matter what Death Battle has to said.

Edited by agent-trunks on Jun 30th 2021 at 7:57:35 AM

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#1938: Jun 30th 2021 at 9:08:43 AM

Flashing back to years ago now when I regularly made Power Tier Lists for games and stuff.

Based on story stuff ya know, not gameplay.

Let's see if I can remember my list...

Tier 1: Devil Jin/Regular Jin, Full Power Devil Kazuya

Tier 1.5: Normal Kazuya, Heihachi, Jinpachi

Tier 2: Hwoarang, Ogre, Paul, Jun

All I got .lol It's been too long.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1939: Jun 30th 2021 at 9:24:28 AM

What did Death Battle say about him?

The Tekken Spirit Board (where characters not in Smash are represented by characters who are in Smash, as a decent approximation):

  • Paul Phoenix & Marshall Law: Ken Masters (Street Fighter) & Fox Mc Cloud (Starfox)
  • Nina Williams: Zero Suit Samus (Metroid), with two Mii Gunners representing mercenaries, presumably from the Tekken Force
  • King & Armor King: Incineroar and Incineroar

I accurately predicted all of those, except Fox as Law (I didn't think Law would even be in it)

Also, there was:

  • Ling Xiaoyu: Mii Brawler with the Ashley (Wario Ware) wig. She also could have backup from a Mii Gunner, but the fight I watched didn't last that long to see who that Gunner would've been
  • Kuma and Panda: Mii Brawler and Mii Gunner in bear costumes. Presumably the White Bear Gunner is the one that would've backed up Xiaoyu.
  • Asuka Kazama: Wii Fit Trainer
  • Yoshimitsu: Mii Swordfighter, with a second sword (the Killing Edge) equipped.
  • Jack-7: a team of Green Donkey Kongs
  • Jin Kazama: Kazuya in black pants
  • Heihachi Mishima: A horned Mii Brawler. Only the Heihachi Mii costume if you've actually bought it.

And the battle conditions reference how the fighters are in Tekken. For example, "Asuka" shields often (plays defensively). As an Asuka main... fair enough. Of course, that's easily exploited in Smash. "Yoshimitsu"'s fight has everyone take damage over time.

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#1940: Jul 1st 2021 at 10:14:11 PM

For now, here's link to the Smash remixes. This playlist has 31 of the 39 tracks at the moment.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1941: Jul 12th 2021 at 12:00:00 PM

A somewhat accurate chart for how long certain (fighting) games received DLC support from their developers.

Whether you consider from the arcade release, or from the home release, Tekken 7 has lasted for a while. Blaz Blue and Street Fighter have longer bars, but they're also series with Capcom Sequel Stagnation and updated rereleases.


I'm just now seeing this mod, but it would've been nice to have Kid Kazuya be playable in the base game. Just Kazuya minus the Devil moves, with different throws, duck under some highs, worse range, and a longer/faster dash distance.


I looked up how old Lidia is, since I was disappointed by how youthful they made the fictional Prime Minister of Poland look. The wiki translation of the official site says she became PM at 29. 5 years younger than the youngest currently serving state leader. That would also put her as one of the youngest non-royal state leaders in the last 120 years of world history.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Jul 14th 2021 at 10:44:02 AM

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1942: Jul 24th 2021 at 12:21:28 PM

A video for the ending theme, that's more like an anime opening.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#1943: Nov 17th 2021 at 8:04:13 AM

Bamco's Esports channel has an animation series with some humorous discussion about some of the series' tropes and conflicts:

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#1944: Nov 17th 2021 at 9:32:53 AM

Lol I saw those in my feed

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#1945: Nov 24th 2021 at 1:36:12 PM

Bamco has released "Definitive Edition" bundles of Tekken 7, so it's pretty clear if it wasn't before that DLC support has ended.

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#1946: Nov 24th 2021 at 2:59:07 PM

I'm not a fan of it being digital only. It doesn't matter to me considering I already own the game, but I kinda wish Bamco sold it physically as well as digitally.

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#1948: Nov 24th 2021 at 5:23:48 PM

What, they still haven't released a physical complete edition for the game?

Edited by agent-trunks on Nov 24th 2021 at 5:24:07 AM

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#1949: Dec 7th 2021 at 4:31:00 AM

tl,dr - "high level player passive-aggressively critiques low-rank players and makes a video about it with a comment section of Tekken players who support his efforts"

High-level players tend to use the moves that are optimal on paper for each situation. While that is technically the best action, it tends to make them more predictable. Lower-ranked players just do what they think will work, which often can work since it's so unpredictable.

And thats the beauty of tekken. In other games, there are a lot of players who can reach high levels just by being "unpredictable". Tekken has a huge risk vs reward system that is clear cut so if you are "unpredictable", you are throwing yourself at a huge risk most of the time with the exception of 2D characters, leroy, and fauk of course.

This is just wrong.High level players have faster reaction speeds.If you are a low level player there are two very important things 1)You don't know what anything your opponent does.

2)You don't have the reaction speed to react because you didn't train your eye to recognize animations thus in decision making level in defense you are slower than the average.

There is also something else these games are played in offline and unless you have above average reaction speed snakedge,throws and some of the other moves are not reactable not just for low levels for anyone aside for high and pro level players.So in a sense the way jdcr is playing is cheating for an easier win.Ofc he would beat them if he played proper but not as easily because the low risk moves are also low in reward.The moves and flowcharts he used are not usable in his level because they are literally suicede.

If "optimal on paper" means best decision according framedata that's the way of intermediate players. Pros will stay unpredictable by changing their timings and disrespecting your frames with the minimum risk for themselves. That makes them more threatening then green ranked with random snake edge

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- JDCR, 2021

"Back in my day"

The boomer energy is oozing out like crazy

JDCR radiating boomer energy."BACK IN MY DAY".

Edited by FOFD on Dec 7th 2021 at 7:32:01 AM

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#1950: Dec 7th 2021 at 4:49:38 AM

And on a different note, where you would rank the female fighters in Tekken feat/lore-wise?

I'm feeling like either Kazumi, Jun, or Nina would be at the top. Maybe Alisa. Lucky Chloe I have no earthly idea. Anna somewhere around Nina. Julia and Xiaoyu...

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).

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