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Maridee from surfside Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Jul 13th 2012 at 9:29:21 AM

Goddess of truth. and that one time she poured acid into her eyes to fight Medusa.

...and I don't even read Wonderwoman.

ophelia, you're breaking my heart
Jul 25th 2012 at 7:51:23 PM

So anybody know any good comics where Batman isn't supposed to be as crazy as his rogues gallery?

C0mraid from Here and there
Jul 26th 2012 at 5:12:10 AM

[up] Depends on what you mean by that. In the Killing Joke the Joker claims Batman is as crazy as he is, but I think most people would agree the comic actually shows Joker to be wrong. And a lot of the best recent comic books have small suggestions Batman might not be completely mentally well, but it's usually ambigous and not a large part of the story. So it's hard to remember offhand which ones do and which ones don't.

Saying that the Steve Englehart/ Marshall Rogers original run is classic and it's from before people started questioning the sanity of a man who dresses up as a Bat.

Am I a good man or a bad man?
Jul 26th 2012 at 8:56:28 AM

I love the old Alan Grant/Norm Breyfogle Batman stories.

Jul 26th 2012 at 9:01:33 AM

The Bronze Age Batman stuff is pretty good. Other than the Steve Engleheart/Marshall Rogers run, there is also Mike W. Barr's run. I've read issues of it online and they are pretty good.

There is also the DCAU-tine in comics. Those are great aswell. waii

Batman isn't portrayed as nearly as insane as the criminal he catches in those books (at least from the issues I've read).

Jul 27th 2012 at 1:27:01 AM

So I hear Bruce Wayne can't cook. This I must see.

I'll admit that when it comes to individual moments, I'm pretty bad at tracking them down. I mostly find random moments that I really like when searching for others and picking up a bunch of random issues.

For random funny moments, especially in Batman of all things, it's rare that I find them. There's a whole host of Alfred moments that I was only able to find as single panels online rather than the issues they're from. So can anyone direct me to certain issues or stories or such?

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Jul 27th 2012 at 9:08:01 AM

[up]I remember that being posted on Scans Daily on one point. I'll try to search for it.

I think it was in Batman: Family.

Jul 27th 2012 at 10:42:46 AM

He can't handle laundry either, as shown during the Moench/Kelley Jones run while Alfred was away post Knightfall.

Jul 28th 2012 at 12:17:57 AM

Eh, I'm fine with him being a terrible Chef and a bit of a slob but I think he should at least be able to do laundry. Afterall, Alfred wasn't always tailing behind when he went globe trotting. He could have gone to any restaruent he wants to eat but laundry is something he would have to do by himself.

Also I've tried but still no luck on finding that issue where Batman fails at cooking.

Jul 28th 2012 at 9:51:22 AM

To be honest, he was having issues with a washing machine. Since he tended to train in the wilderness and such, I'd bet he'd have no problems with washing clothes by hand.

Gabrael from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jul 29th 2012 at 6:56:26 AM

Gotta request some help:

I was never allowed to read comics growing up. So I'm trying to play catch up on all that I have missed. The problem is I am also very OCD. If it's a serial, I have to read in order or it twitches me out.

Can anyone help me find a complete listing of the Batman comics in omnibus or serial form? I've been trying to find one, but either they're not in any order or they're incomplete.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Jul 29th 2012 at 10:58:47 AM

There's a torrent out there with all of the Batman comics. You could use that?

Sadly it doesn't have anything past a certain point in Morrison's run or Detective Comics' stuff. Or the million and a half spinoffs.

"So anybody know any good comics where Batman isn't supposed to be as crazy as his rogues gallery?"

Morrison's Batman operates under the idea that Batman's not crazy so much as obssessed.

To be fair, it depends on your definition of crazy. If you mean something like "He's not Bruce but Batman" stuff then no dice, sorry.

We made gods and jailers because we felt small. We let them judge us and we allowed ourselves to be sentenced. See! Now! Our sentence is up!
Gabrael from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Jul 29th 2012 at 12:22:17 PM

I know this sounds crazy, but I don't torrent anything. I hate reading on computers anyway. I love me some books. Last move I had over 3000 books.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Jul 29th 2012 at 12:33:53 PM

Well the only other solution's looking for stuff in Amazon.

I'd recommend to just pick good runs though. They are normally very self-contained and there's exposition when needed really

We made gods and jailers because we felt small. We let them judge us and we allowed ourselves to be sentenced. See! Now! Our sentence is up!
Jul 29th 2012 at 2:39:05 PM

So what are people's thoughts on the Outsiders as a concept?

Is it good? Is it bad? Is it unnecessary? Is it outdated now that Batman Inc has come into being? Is it just waiting for a good writer to develop it?

Jul 29th 2012 at 4:13:01 PM

I really think all the current Batman writers need to sit down together and say "Okay, this is the Batmobile, this is what it looks like". Seriously it seems that the Batmobile totally changes shape between Batman, Detective Comics, Dark Knight, Batman and Robin and Batman Inc. It really annoys me.

C0mraid from Here and there
Jul 29th 2012 at 4:20:03 PM

Artists, not writers. It's rare that the Batmobile ever has looked consistent. Even if they try there's no gurantee; drawing cars well I'd t necessarily a requirement for being a comic book artist.

Am I a good man or a bad man?
Jul 30th 2012 at 1:39:38 AM

I remember there was that one point in Hush where they rush to the garage and there's maybe a dozen and a half different Batmobile designs in there (one of my favorite moments, actually). And that was in the early 2000's, I'm sure there's been even more added since then.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Jul 30th 2012 at 10:15:15 AM

Phooey, I prefer it when he had just one model and maybe had 2-3 copies of it in storage. I refuse to believe that Bruce could just swipe all that technology from his company constantly without someone noticing it.

Although lately, it has been said that Steel helps him with the technology. Now there is something I would like to see developed more.

edited 30th Jul '12 1:26:38 PM by TheDrifter

Jul 30th 2012 at 10:17:23 AM

[up]Isn't the "Bruce revealed to the public he's funding Batman" thing still in canon? He doesn't have to 'secretly swipe' anymore, right?

edited 30th Jul '12 10:17:43 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Jul 30th 2012 at 1:26:19 PM

[up]Even before that he's been shown having a garage full of Batmobiles of several models. See: 'Heart of Hush' and 'Hush' for examples.

C0mraid from Here and there
Jul 30th 2012 at 1:29:36 PM

It's rare that there's been any effort at all to make the Batmobile look consistent. The garage full of Batmobile's started as a reference to all the car models he's been shown using.

Am I a good man or a bad man?
Jul 31st 2012 at 12:45:13 AM

[up]From what I understand: it wasn't until the late 90's and the 00's that they started showing him having garages filled with all sorts of Batmobile models. Prior to that, he's always had that one model that he uses to drive. It usually took a few years before he started driving with some new models.

edited 12th Aug '12 1:01:38 PM by TheDrifter

Jul 31st 2012 at 5:14:43 AM

That's because before then, he only had two titles, Batman and Detective, to regularly star in (he rarely used Batmobiles in Justice League, and Batman Family focused more on other characters IIRC). That made easier for the artists to coordinate notes on what the Batmobile should look like. Once his titles skyrocketed up, so did the art discrepancies, that were eventually chalked up to multiple Batmobiles.

edited 31st Jul '12 5:15:22 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Jul 31st 2012 at 10:50:34 AM

I blame the lack of co-ordination for that than just the rising number of titles.

Also I miss the days when Batman didn't star in 45 different books at the same time. I hope the crazy hype dies down soon. sad

edited 1st Aug '12 2:50:56 AM by TheDrifter


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