Not that I'm aware.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jun 5th 2020 at 6:20:32 PM
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Not outside of the hyperbole of the Law and Order Center-To-Conservative who are happy enough to voice their sympathy to those discriminated against - and in the grand tradition that everything before the but is horseshit - but would rather not take the drastic measures needed on account of all the dark and dastardly consequences this would entail.
Way more comfy to hit the snooze button on the issue until the media cycle moves on, after all, it's not a daily issue for them.
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Edited by 3of4 on Jun 5th 2020 at 6:24:02 PM
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Let's check the disciplinary statistics from the city of Berlin itself and see what they say.
Wow, a whole 22 convictions of police officers in 2018. It's a wonder a police department of checks notes 17.041 plainclothes officers can even survive with conviction rates that high.
Truly, this is a department on the brink of institutional collapse.
Edited by math792d on Jun 5th 2020 at 9:26:05 AM
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Oh, bother.
So...no.
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Okay so if someone brings a case of racial discrimination against the force the city government would have to provide positive proof that the police didn’t discriminate? Proof to what level and in what way? Is it enough for them to show how the case was handled and have it make sense without any discrimination? Is it enough for them to point to officers going though anti-discrimination training?
Inverting the burden of proof is a big thing, it’s not even setting it to “on the balance of probability”, so I’m trying to understand the logic here. Why do they feel the burden of proof needs to be shifted?
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I do remember hearing that the Berliner police could actually need some more personnel, though.
But I don't really see the issue with wanting to make sure the police doesn't discriminate, especially since some police departments in Germany - mainly in the east- have shown signs of far-right infiltration.
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Its an approach worth trying, I think. The current method has arguably failed to stem discrimination.
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Is it really infiltration when they're flying Neo-nazi symbols on their chairs?
You can't really find them if you are not looking for them in the first place.
Every applicant who wants to become a public servant should be checked upon by the Verfassungsschutz if he belongs to a organization or party that has been deemed unconstitutional.
Germany wants to spend 130 billion Euros to recover from the crisis:
That includes temporarily lowering VAT tax (from 19% to 16% in the second half of 2020), a one-off 300 EUR payment for every child in the country, 50 billion EUR to fight climate change, and a couple of other things.
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That is certainly ambitious but overall necessary, the last thing you want is to make your people feel that they have been left behind.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
It is a good thing that the government was financially prudent during the last decade, thanks to that Germany now has the ressources to hopefully jumpstart its' economy and with the Macron-Merkel plan help those countries who suffered the most.
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Edited by tclittle on Jun 16th 2020 at 11:55:22 AM
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Oh, bother.
A psychology professor seriously advocated for housing children with pedophiles?
And the government listened to him for decades?
WTF.
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What the fuck.
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The sad thing is, this is - while seriously disturbing - not all that surprising.
One of my professors recently wrote a book about the perception of pedophilie in Germany after 1968. Like many countries, Germany experienced a liberalization of sexuality as a consequence of 1968, but unlike other countries, many activists developed what we would nowadays consider disturbing views regarding the sexuality of children. The more harmless ones just developed some ... questionable... methods of teaching children about it. The more misguided (or sometimes following more sinister motives) thought that sex with children should not be criminalized as long as it was "consensual". Helmut Kantler was one of their most cited experts (Kantler was not a 68er, but his books were widely read) Many of those later joined the newly established Green party, and the Green party even went into a regional election demanding the decriminalization of pedophilie (which they soundly lost). It took the Green party until the 1990s to purge itself from these elements. Just saying that those views were not as universally condemned as one might expect.
It will be interesting to see who is politically responsible for this. Though another article that I have read that it might be partly because of West-Berlin's special place in the FRG, which gave its' institutions more leeway and independence from political oversight.
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Celebrity conspiracy nut Attila Hildmann has gone full anti-semite
https://www.web24.news/u/2020/06/anti-semitism-on-the-net-attila-hildmann-blames-jews.html
Hope this finally buries him
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So the city of Gelsenkirchen has now a statue of Wladimir Lenin
https://www.dw.com/en/controversial-lenin-statue-unveiled-in-germanys-gelsenkirchen/a-53880002
That is surely gonna help the tensions a lot....
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Hundreds run riot in Stuttgart city centre after drug checks
Two dozen people, half of them German nationals, were provisionally arrested and police reported 19 officers hurt. “They were unbelievable scenes that have left me speechless. In my 46 years of police service, I have never experienced this,” said the Stuttgart police chief, Franz Lutz.
Tensions built up shortly after midnight when officers carried out checks on a 17-year-old German man suspected of using drugs, said Stuttgart’s deputy police chief, Thomas Berger.
Crowds who were milling around at the city’s biggest square, the Schlossplatz, immediately rallied around the young man and began throwing stones and bottles at police. The groups, mostly men, also used sticks or poles to break the windows of police vehicles parked in the area.
“I sharply condemn this brutal outbreak of violence, these acts against people and things are criminal action that must be forcefully prosecuted and condemned,” said Winfried Kretschmann, Baden-Württemberg’s state premier, in a statement.
At the height of the clashes, some 400 to 500 people joined in the battle against police officers and rescue workers.
As officers pushed back against the crowd, they broke up into small groups, carrying on their rampage around the city centre, breaking shop windows and looting stores along nearby Königstraße, a major shopping street.
One jewellery shop was emptied and a mobile phone shop ransacked, according to regional broadcaster SWR. Nine shops were looted in all, and 14 others were damaged.
After smaller-scale clashes broke out in the city centre last week between police and groups of young people, officers bulked up their deployment with an extra 100-strong team. But the scale of the violence overwhelmed the officers, forcing them to call in reinforcements from other parts of the state.
It took them four and a half hours to quell the violence, which the Social Democrat regional MP, Sascha Binder, described as “civil war-like scenes”.
Police have ruled out any political motives for the rampage, describing the perpetrators as people from the “party scene or events scene”.
An unusually large number of people were in the city centre to enjoy the summer evening because discos and clubs were still shut because of the coronavirus pandemic, Stuttgart’s mayor, Fritz Kuhn, said. Some of the rioters were under the influence of alcohol and others may have been driven by “the addiction of putting a little film on social media”, he said.
Asked about the nationalities of the 12 non-Germans who were detailed, Berger said they came from a range of countries, from Croatia and Portugal to Afghanistan and Somalia.
The interior minister for the region, Thomas Strobl, said the disturbances were of “an unprecedented nature” and vowed to “use all available means available under the rule of law to go after the rioters”.
Eh? How was that even allowed to happen? Is the party that sanctioned this in government in Gelsenkirchen?
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The MLPD is for those who think the Left is too compromising.
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I wouldn't consider it too out of line if this statue were toppled, or at least given a tasteful Darth Vader makeover in the vein of Ukraine.
They're Stalinists who hate every other leftist party in Germany.
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They are on the Verfassungsschutz-List. That should tell you everything.
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Is framing police officers actually a statistically significant issue in Germany?
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