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I can accept that argument. I am more inclined for forgive Harry for his shittiness, because he's a teenager and, well, haven't we all been shitty as teenagers? But Norman is an adult — and so his shittiness has a bigger impact that Harry's would.
Edited by alliterator on Sep 21st 2019 at 11:45:29 AM
Meanwhile Peter is the son Norman wishes he had.
To those whose first experience with Norman Osborne was his Nineties animated portrayal, it's almost startling to see how awful he is in pretty much every other continuity including the original comics.
Seeing how a character is softened or villainized in an adaptation is always something to see.
I got one character who got one hell of an adaptation change.
Okay so the character Star Saber (actually my current profile pic ) from the 90's Japanese only anime Transformers Victory was pretty much an Optimus Prime clone. Long suffering noble leader of the Autobots, self-sacrificing, virtous & somewhat humorless, pretty much Optimus lite.
When he finally appeared decades later in the IDW Transformers comics (his literal 1st apperance since Victory ended) he was then portrayed as a violently insane fascist & religious fundamentalist who belives its his right to murder whoever he belives is guilty in the name of his God Primus.
A complete 180 in character.
Edited by slimcoder on Sep 21st 2019 at 2:12:00 AM
Despite the Ultimate Universe's habit of making characters more assholish, Ultimate Norman is one of the few portrayals of the character who seems to genuinely love Harry despite otherwise being a Complete Monster.
It’s a fun trait shared by pretty much all versions of Harry Osborn that he’s chronically incapable of making intelligent, or at least well thought out decisions.
He’s always a prideful twit who - either through impulsiveness, stubbornness or simple ignorance - makes his own life, and inevitably the lives of those around him significantly more difficult.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 21st 2019 at 5:37:26 AM
No wonder he and Peter are best friends.
They're like birds of a feather.
Besides the Amazing Spider-Man Harry, who got screwed over a bunch of times through no fault of his own then exploded into an ugly leprechaun.
TASM Harry had least a few decades to try out some cures, but he sure couldn't stop himself.
Speaking of Spider-Man, Best Buy Canada has a 4-pack Blu-Ray collection featuring the most recent Spider-Man movies coming in time for Christmas.
It'll probably find its way to America around the same time.
I know they're Sony's movies to do as they wish, but does anyone else think it's a little dishonest to have Venom in this set considering how it's not up to par with Homecoming, Into the Spider-Verse, and Far From Home, quality-wise?
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Sep 22nd 2019 at 7:18:59 AM
No. The criteria here is not quality.
Not at all, and regardless of its quality they have every single right to include Venom with the rest of them.
I just find it odd that they put together four movies from three entirely different continuities.
Actually, the Venom movie's Stinger is an advertisement for Spider-Verse, justified with "in an alternate dimension", so Venom is canonically set in the same multiverse as Spider-Verse.
I REALLY want Peter B. to meet the Hardy!Venom now. The sheer "...what." would be hilarious.
They don't care about quality, they care about popularity. And on that front, it makes sense; Venom not just outgrossed Spider-Man; it came in just under Spider-Man: Homecoming as well. And that was without being able to go "Look! Iron Man is in this one!" on the poster and trailers.
"Seeing how a character is softened or villainized in an adaptation is always something to see.
When you know the adaptation first is more a thing to see, like M84 compared harry to others version of him is.....hard, really hard.
and then there is remi normal who have a awfull father, a misplace vengance and of course, die the moment he become good.
Alright this is cool.
I Am Iron Man synced up with Giorno Giovanna's theme from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
And I...have a dream"
I still really like how much RDJ struggles with each gesture and word of that scene.
It was established in Guardians 1 that the Power Gem alone has so much energy channeled through it that simply to touch it would obliterate an ordinary person. Direct contact with the Gems is hazardous to one's health. This has remained a plot point ever since, especially in Infinity War and Endgame.
In that scene, Tony is struggling with every fiber of his being simply to live long enough to do this. Tony is not half-Celestial. Tony isn't even a human of exceptional physiology like Cap. He's just a dude. Weathering that kind of power for even five seconds is probably the hardest thing he's ever done in his life. And RDJ makes you feel it.
I do like that he gives Thanos that little smirk, though. Like, despite the obvious agony, he's still got enough in him to go "Ah ha, gotcha, motherfucker."
And remember, that scene was shot after filming for Endgame had already been deemed complete for a while, and Downey almost didn't film it because he wasn't sure about putting himself back into the emotional setting for Tony's last moments again.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 22nd 2019 at 11:05:10 AM
Thank God he did, because "Fuck off, Thanos" wouldn't have had nearly as much impact.
He is a man with a dream, of course he can do anything.
The gauntlet offers some protection compared to just raw-dogging it like Quill did, but look at how much the Hulk struggled when wearing it earlier.
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