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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#76: Sep 5th 2011 at 5:57:19 PM

One the one hand, it's Disney. On the other hand, it's CGI.

Maybe. Not sure how well it'd work.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#77: Sep 5th 2011 at 6:25:48 PM

Felix is not Fez. It's that guy from Thirty Rock.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#78: Sep 5th 2011 at 6:34:25 PM

[up] I was playing along with the Handy Manny reference. Wilmer Valderama voices him.

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Kossage Mr. Smiles from Finland Since: Jul, 2009
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#80: Sep 6th 2011 at 2:09:49 PM

I hope they don't get Harry Gregson-Williams. He's a hack and yet seems to do half of the scores for animation.

How so? Sure, Gregson-Williams was inspired by the greats that came before him, but his mix of homage and original stuff has occasionally produced glorious results, the crowning music of which is the entire soundtrack of Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas which pays marvellous tribute to the Korngoldian swashbuckling style like no other.

And speaking of other candidates, Giacchino might be a good choice indeed. He's written some decent scores, and his video game background is certainly a plus. I also wouldn't mind seeing James Newton Howard return to the Disney lot for this assignment: his scores for Atlantis, Dinosaur and Treasure Planet are great, and he'd certainly compose something equally good for this film too. Ditto for John Powell who has had a blast with scores for animated films recently. He could easily provide the technological edge as well as the melodic heart, a perfect match for the film's story.

It'll be interesting to see who gets chosen, though: Disney has had a great track record of wonderful scores in its animated canon so far, and I don't think Wreck-It Ralph will disappoint in that regard. One of the great things about upcoming Disney features is waiting for the scores and hearing what melodic magic they offer us. smile

edited 6th Sep '11 2:11:28 PM by Kossage

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#81: Sep 6th 2011 at 4:56:42 PM

Gregson-Williams rips off his mentor Hans Zimmer at every chance he gets. And he almost always does the same thing (whatever Zimmer is doing). And yet, Dream Works absolutely loves him because Katzenberg keeps trying to relive the glory of The Lion King (which had Zimmer as composer) and can't get Zimmer for everything.

His brother Rupert even worse, always seeming to write bland scores for Adam Sandler movies (really Sandler, you went from having Randy Edelman and Mark Mothersbaugh on your first two lead roles to this guy?).

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#82: Sep 6th 2011 at 5:26:48 PM

I hear so much crap about Zimmer. I'm starting to believe he's just as much a hack as Katzenburg.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#83: Sep 6th 2011 at 6:07:25 PM

He is, and more. He also uses tactics to force people off of movies (he had an already-completed score for Chicken Run done by Aardman regular Julian Nott tossed after he decided that he wanted to do it and forced Nick Park to let his team do it) and makes people so into his sound that producers refuse to acknowledge anyone else (Jerry Bruckheimer brought his team to do Pirates of the Caribbean simply because original composer Alan Silvestri wanted to have a traditional sound with flutes).

He's also been in trouble with the Academy over his use of multiple people on every movie. You may notice that some of his movies have a bunch of people credited for score (The Rock had three credited composers, Pirates of the Caribbean had one credited but supposedly used six composers, Bad Boys II had seven credited composers).

edited 6th Sep '11 6:08:31 PM by Buscemi

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Mattonymy Mr. Dr. from The Evils of Free Will Since: Jul, 2010
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#84: Sep 7th 2011 at 6:50:11 PM

[up] source?

edited 7th Sep '11 6:51:47 PM by Mattonymy

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Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#85: Sep 7th 2011 at 7:49:09 PM

Go to any film score website (Film Score Monthly, Rejected Film Scores, etc.). They'll tell you about Zimmer's tactics.

edited 7th Sep '11 7:49:21 PM by Buscemi

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#86: Sep 9th 2011 at 11:32:43 AM

Just saying "Oh, go anywhere, they'll tell you" does not count as a source. In fact, such vagueness generally hints that one doesn't have a source.

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Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#87: Sep 9th 2011 at 5:13:08 PM

[1] (many notes on Zimmer's toying with projects)

[2] (an even-handed source of music fans, but you'll find some stories of Zimmer and his tactics along with people who like Zimmer)

And I have a friend who once saw an interview (I'll have to ask him where) where Zimmer trashed Jerry Goldsmith for no apparent reason. This friend, who idolizes Goldsmith, now hates Zimmer with a passion.

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SlowTeddy Baby! from Here Since: Aug, 2011
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#88: Sep 9th 2011 at 5:25:04 PM

Wait is this the discussion about the disney movie, or some asshole?

Arcade machine (with ralph)

edited 9th Sep '11 5:30:16 PM by SlowTeddy

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Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#89: Sep 9th 2011 at 5:51:55 PM

You know how I said that Harry Gregson-Williams is a hack? Well, guess who they replaced Michael Giacchino with on Arthur Christmas?

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#91: Oct 7th 2011 at 1:35:35 PM

According to IM Db and Film Score Monthly, Thomas Newman is scoring the film. Also, him and Randy Newman are going to write a song for the soundtrack.

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#92: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:41:31 PM

What a waste, not agaisnt the Newmans. but couldn't they have AT LEAST gotten somebody from the video game industry to do the music for this?

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#93: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:44:47 PM

The field of video game composers who also do films (and vice versa) is slim pickings. Other than Giacchino (who's busy with other projects), your only other option would have been a composer from Remote Control Productions (Zimmer's company). The last thing that Disney wants is to make it sound like a Dream Works movie (they had John Powell do Bolt and that whole movie felt like Disney copying Dream Works).

edited 7th Oct '11 5:45:39 PM by Buscemi

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#94: Oct 7th 2011 at 5:49:38 PM

I can think of a dozen video game composers who can do better than Thomas Newman(I'm not agaisnt the newman family). They could have picked people like Robin Beanland, Terry Scott Taylor, or even somebody John Guscott.

edited 7th Oct '11 5:49:50 PM by Theoriginalblader

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#96: Oct 7th 2011 at 7:24:50 PM

I think we're just sick and tired of seeing the same composers used again and again.

Buscemi I Am The Walrus from a log cabin Since: Jul, 2010
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#97: Oct 7th 2011 at 8:41:34 PM

Blader, those are probably people who wouldn't have been interested in doing a film anyway.

And besides, Newman could surprise us. He gave the future a perfect soundtrack so let's give him a chance with video games.

edited 7th Oct '11 8:42:45 PM by Buscemi

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#98: Oct 7th 2011 at 11:09:32 PM

If I were to pick a video game composer to score this movie, I'd probably pick Grant Kirkhope. Yep, another Rare person. He's done some fabulous stuff, like his work with the Viva Pinata games. (I link to this one, because, according to him, it's his favorite piece he's ever written. Especially when you hear the story behind it.)

I also like the work of Basiscape. Here's your mandatory deeply emotional piece from them.

edited 7th Oct '11 11:09:52 PM by FreezairForALimitedTime

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Theoriginalblader Sloving cases one by one from Downtown Since: Feb, 2011
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#99: Oct 8th 2011 at 3:52:02 AM

Buscemi, regardless if they were interested in doing it. I dont have a right to make a few suggestions on who would be a better composer than a Newman?

FigmentJedi Since: Jan, 2001
#100: Oct 8th 2011 at 8:16:41 AM

I would have gone with Dave Wise


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