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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#13026: Jul 18th 2020 at 9:43:10 PM

I'm not. I should, but I'm not.

I kinda like the opening scenes....for Rare blades. Got sick of the Common blade clips.

I swear, this game is gonna drive me crazy with KOS-MOS. I can honestly picture going through the entire thing and still not getting her.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#13027: Jul 18th 2020 at 9:50:40 PM

You're making this needlessly hard on yourself. No wonder you're having such a bad time. I did grind for KOS-MOS when that wasn't an option (it would be the first playthrough I had getting her, and she was my last rare blade), and I can guarantee you that you're not missing out on anything by skipping the opening scenes and viewing the rare ones later. Skip the openings, and you can open far more cores than you did before in the same amount of time. Complaining about it isn't going to unlock her any faster.

Edited by RainingMetal on Jul 18th 2020 at 9:51:16 AM

justinkal Since: Oct, 2016
#13028: Jul 18th 2020 at 10:00:31 PM

Honestly, KOS-MOS is hell.

I outright gave up on her after unsuccessfully opening 300 legendary cores in a row at high luck with level 10 idea.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#13029: Jul 18th 2020 at 10:14:55 PM

So I'm stuck on the boss of Bionis Interior. I'm capable of killing everything in the dungeon, including the named enemies two levels above the boss. Ignoring the adds doesn't work, and attacking them works even less. What am I supposed to be doing here?

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#13030: Jul 19th 2020 at 12:14:15 AM

Melia is the best party leader against Big L. Her best partners are Riki, Seven, or Dunban.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#13031: Jul 19th 2020 at 12:50:51 AM

Huh, that worked. I was running Shulk/Dunban/Riki, so I just needed to swap leaders. Which resulted in the adds not getting summoned for some reason? Feels weird to get punished for using Shulk, especially when the game has otherwise not really cared too much about party composition

...Also, why do the visions still pop up when Shulk's not in the party?

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#13032: Jul 19th 2020 at 12:52:51 AM

Anti-Frustration Feature.

Also, the game punished you for using Shulk against High Entia Assassins. Shulk is also very bad against Nebula enemies.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jul 19th 2020 at 12:54:05 PM

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#13033: Jul 19th 2020 at 1:00:30 AM

[up][up] Where you using Mind Blast a lot? When an enemy summons adds, the add summoning counts as an Art and Mind Blast applies Arts Seal.

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RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#13035: Jul 19th 2020 at 1:03:14 AM

Also, the game punished you for using Shulk against High Entia Assassins

Wait, it did? ...I was pretty overleveled throughout Eryth

Shulk is also very bad against Nebula enemies.

I'd kinda noticed that, but I fight them so rarely I never really thought about it

Where you using Mind Blast a lot? When an enemy summons adds, the add summoning counts as an Art and Mind Blast applies Arts Seal.

I guess? It was on my skill bar, and I just kinda used everything as soon as it came off cooldown

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#13036: Jul 19th 2020 at 1:12:20 AM

Shulk does 1 damage against the High Entia regardless of your level and equipment (except in NG+, of course).

Edited by RAlexa21th on Jul 19th 2020 at 1:12:56 AM

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Hunter1 The Guy in the Capsule from The New Eden Galaxy Since: Jan, 2001
The Guy in the Capsule
#13037: Jul 19th 2020 at 8:18:51 AM

[up][up]You've seen how the game likes using story elements as gameplay elements, right? So, remember a hat happened when Reyn "used" the Monado in Shulk's lab early in the game? That's right, it didn't hurt Fiora. The Monado explicitly can not hurt the intelligent lifeforms of the Bionis... at least before you go through Prison Island the first time... and it just so happens that all your fights against non-Mechon intelligent life occur before that point.

Well, assuming that you ignore the fact that most Faced Mechon qualify as "intelligent life of the Bionis", which is in reality pretty much the whole point of the Face units: a anti-Monado weapon.

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RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#13038: Jul 19th 2020 at 9:43:32 AM

Basically, there are times where you need to stop relying on Shulk as a crutch.

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#13039: Jul 19th 2020 at 10:13:02 AM

The Monado explicitly can not hurt the intelligent lifeforms of the Bionis... at least before you go through Prison Island the first time... and it just so happens that all your fights against non-Mechon intelligent life occur before that point.

Except Tirkins and Ignas were clearly sentient beings as well and the Monado can cut through them no problem

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#13040: Jul 19th 2020 at 10:42:03 AM

What Measure Is A Nonhuman applies in this case, since Homs are humans, and High Entia are humans with stupid wings in their hair.

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
Mad Archivist
#13041: Jul 19th 2020 at 10:43:49 AM

[up][up]So ? The game's wording of what the monado can and can't hurt might be wonky (I wonder if the explanation is clearer in japanese), but the point still stands that the monado does jack shit to Homz, High Entia and nopons before prison island.

Edited by Yumil on Jul 19th 2020 at 7:43:56 PM

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MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Unbeugsame Klinge
#13042: Jul 19th 2020 at 10:49:28 AM

[up][up][up] Well, there's a very good reason for that: Zanza is racist.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#13043: Jul 20th 2020 at 2:58:48 PM

So...should I just speed through the plot until I get back my full party (and can start doing stuff like Merc Missions again), or should I take the time to do Quests as well while they're there?

I figure the former is better, cause then I can take care of a bunch of quests all at once, and quickly start filling affinity Nodes.

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Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#13044: Jul 20th 2020 at 4:02:13 PM

Xenoblade 1 Tirkin and Igna aren't sentient, they're sapient. Meaning that they're capable of using tools as some monkeys do in our world but can't speak, write, or recognize other lifeforms as more than predator or prey.

RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#13045: Jul 20th 2020 at 4:30:20 PM

[up][up]I usually take my time in Chapter 3, to build up Vandham's skill chart, and do every sidequest and activity I can up to that point. Then I rush to the end of Chapter 5 to get all party members in one place, then do the sidequests there and in Chapter 6. It's all a matter of preference, and it depends on how many blades you still need to develop and where they are. Of course, you need to get to Chapter 9 to get Mikhaill, but there ought to be enough sidequests at the end of the game to develop his chart as well.

justinkal Since: Oct, 2016
#13046: Jul 20th 2020 at 5:01:43 PM

I skipped the vast majority of the sidequests in NG+ because I already went full completionist on my first run before all the DLC was released.

I basically rushed through the story to reach the few things that are actually exclusive to NG+.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#13047: Jul 20th 2020 at 8:24:48 PM

Alright. I got Vandham back. Time to start levelling him....

.......

<Sees Vandham is both at a super low level (28) and also barely has any points for his affinity chart>

.....that'll be an issue.sad

Guess I'll take him to the Land of Challenge. That might help. At least I remembered to fill Roc's chart.

The Hidden Affinity Chart's gonna be a bitch though, and I'll run out of quests at some point. I'll save them until I reach Uraya and just make sure to avoid sleeping at the Inn.

One Strip! One Strip!
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010
#13048: Jul 20th 2020 at 9:04:19 PM

Nice try. Trying to play the challenges with Vandham gets you rejected.

But you don't really get exp from challenges anyway. Or not much, I can't remember. Grinding Relentless Arduran with Chain Attack finishers is more effective anyway.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#13049: Jul 20th 2020 at 9:23:30 PM

I should note that levelling Vandham or clearing his Affinity Chart doesn't really give you anything special or worthwhile. Only do it if you really like mindless grinding.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#13050: Jul 20th 2020 at 9:27:43 PM

Dammit!

I must. I must do it! I'll kill as many enemies as it takes!

Shouldn't have lowered my level to 60 it seems.

Oh well. Relentless Arduaran it is. I don't care how many times you die Vandham. You're getting all your shit!

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