Seems to attract complaining: Death Is Dramatic

Note: This may belong elsewhere.

The trope description is mostly fine, although I think there may be too much discussion of how subverting it tends to tick off fans (personally, I love it). However, the examples, which are all supposed to be cases where it's played with, have a large amount of negative Word Cruft. Lines such as "Mercifully (emphasis mine) the manga adaptation averts the subversion", free use of brutally subverted and a generally irritated tone all suggest that this is being used as a chance to vent about the few times the trope isn't played straight. About the only good thing to be said for it is that it makes the above description of fan annoyance a Self-Demonstrating Article. To finish it off, there's several straight examples on there, which aren't supposed to be listed in the first place.

I could just clear it off, but I have a feeling that this sort of thing will come back. Suggestions?

edited 1st Feb '11 7:37:35 PM by nrjxll

Providing examples seems a bit problematic from the get-go.

• It's a cornerstone trope. I suspect there are almost as many examples as stories involving the death of a character.
• Big departures from the trope are already covered by Dropped a Bridge on Him: "An important character is killed off in a very abrupt, unceremonious way."
• If a death is "moderately dramatic" it's not clear to me that it is automatically an aversion, or intended as a subversion.

We could cull the subversions/aversions/whatnot, moving 'em to Dropped a Bridge on Him when they fit (and are not already there.) Is that a reasonable approach?

edited 2nd Feb '11 2:15:47 AM by Camacan

But (at least in my opinion) Dropped a Bridge on Him is treated as even more of an excuse to complain. The whole gist of that trope seems to be, not just a subversion, but a, quote, mean-spirited subversion of Death Is Dramatic.

Edit: Looking at it more, Dropped a Bridge on Him is clearly treated as a subjective trope, even though not listed as such. The page points out that aversions of Death Is Dramatic do not have to be cases of bridge-dropping. Which seems to make this page all the worse - we already have one trope for Complaining About Character Deaths You Don't Like, why do we need two?

edited 2nd Feb '11 4:02:00 AM by nrjxll

Update: Just did a cleanup on some of the natter and straight examples (which weren't supposed to be on there). I left straight examples that qualified as exaggerated and had information to back it up (beyond just saying "OH SO MUCH!" and the like). However, I'm going to need some help with the anime/manga section and I need some suggestions on how to deal with the mass of Justifying Edits on some sections. I'm also not sure what to do with the Western Animation section - neither example belonged there - the Avatar one was simply played straight and the Superman one was a mass of gushing - but having never deleted this many examples before, I'm not sure whether that means I should wipe out the folder or not.

edited 15th Feb '11 5:44:31 PM by nrjxll