The New Touhou Character Alternate Interpretation Compendium!

But spring does come to the poles. It comes with the first sunrise after the night that lasted for three months.

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Lily is probably only the herald of spring in Gensokyo. I mean, we don't expect Letty or the Akis to have bigger jurisdictions than that. Probably because Lily has an element of mystery that they do not.

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If she is the global springiver, then she essentially makes the sun rise. Colour me impressed.

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I think we'd know if fairies existed outside Gensoukyou

You need to clap your hands more often. You can't see them unless you believe enough to randomly applaud.

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I am unsure about a fairy's visibility to humans. People in Gensokyo might be able to see, them, but I don't think humans from the outside world can, just like some ghosts.

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A number of god/youkai aspects seem to draw from whether humans believe in such beings, so fairy visibility may be on the list too.

Alternatively, the Lily team may only operate in locations where youkai exist in significant numbers and are actively believed in (Gensokyo, Higan, any other havens for the magical/supernatural that may exist), with the outside world being driven pretty much by SCIENCE!! instead and not having any heralds.

edited 16th Mar '12 10:28:48 PM by trepmaws

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But we don't know that. Oni are forgotten by humans, yet they are still around. No one remembers their weaknesses, yet they still retain the weakness to soybeans.

If it was as simple as belief equals reality, then it wouldn't be nearly as complicated/confusing as what we see in Touhou.

For example, humans "forgot" about the Gameboy. That was how the Gameboy or more advanced versions appear in Gensokyo. Yet, that does not mean all of the Gameboy is gone from the outside world. Also, no one really knows where Higan is. However, it should be safe to assume that Higan is where all souls go to when they die. This, of course, includes humans from the outside world, as well as Gensokyo. They made it very clear that Higan is not part of Gensokyo.

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Not exactly following the Gameboy example; I always thought it was pretty well accepted that the Gameboy was invented by us and does indeed exist (and I highly doubt people no longer believe cellphones exist, despite them ending up on Rinnosuke's shelves as well). I challenge you to find me a ghost or fairy at Gamestop or on eBay.

While some things do indeed end up in Gensokyo due to the outside world no longer believing in them — either inadvertently, a la Miko's tomb, or through a conscious decision, a la the Moriya Shrine — I thought our technology ending up there was a result of random barrier weaknesses combined with the fact that it's far easier for a person/item to enter Gensokyo than to leave it.

If what you're trying to say, however, is that there could still be Lilys in the outside world doing their job without people knowing they were there, then sure, I wouldn't disagree with that.

edited 17th Mar '12 12:23:34 AM by trepmaws

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Given that fairies don't exactly originate in Japan to begin with, I could see there be fairies in other parts of the world. Even if it's just "Europe's Gensoukyou equivalents".

I assume that they just go unseen. Because fairies. I am pretty sure they can do that.

Or maybe Lily White and her ilk are such determenators about heralding in spring, that they fight through the disbelief through oblivious willpower. While invisible.

edited 17th Mar '12 9:24:02 AM by Otherarrow

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Or it could be that that's how it was. Then, much like Kyouko, Science took over her job. Now instead of Faeries bringing spring int he outside world, it's axial tilt. The Lilys assigned to Gensokyo and Higan are alright, because in the former, Gensokyo accommodates the disbelieved, and in Higan, spring isn't caused by axial tilt because it's not part of earth proper.

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I don't think Lily White is assigned to Higan at all. I am pretty sure there are no seasons in Higan.

That is the thing, it isn't the case. The random barrier weakness isn't the reason why some technologies end up in Gensokyo. Both the gameboy example and this tower is the result of people forgetting about it.

edited 17th Mar '12 4:09:59 PM by Starx

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I'll never forget the Brick Boy.

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If I recall, the Kusanagi ended up coming over because people thought that the original was lost and the one that the royal family has now is a replica. Maybe the Game Boy isn't so much people forgot about the Game Boy (after all, even though it has been outdone and succeeded many times now, it has left it's mark on video game history and all), but rather, people thought that specific Game Boy was lost, like a child misplaced his Game Boy, assumed it was lost forever, told everyone it was lost forever, and then it slipped through because everyone though it was lost forever. If that makes sense.

...Also, Lily White. She has a nice outfit.

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Indeed she does have a nice outfit!. Though I imagine the hat catches all the rain and keeps it, making it very heavy.

Where on earth does she live, anyway? The three fairies of light seem to like trees, and Cirno makes igloos... Maybe Lily chums out in rainbows or something. That would seem fitting, somehow.

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She might have a home in the mountains, going by what PMISS says. A tree probably since trees are common homes for fairies in general. Nice little place where she can take it easy on the off seasons.

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A possible idea is that Lily White and Yuuka are the same person. They both love flowers, so there is that.

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Impossible. They clash heads in PoFV.

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Yuuka can shoot at Lily White in PoFV. Multiple times in one battle even.

To take Yuuka shot to the face and come back for more, Lily sure is a trooper.

EDIT:Ninja'd.

edited 17th Mar '12 5:49:32 PM by Otherarrow

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So if I purposely lose my Game Boy, and it goes to Gensokyo, then how am I ever going to create a Game Boy Youkai.

It takes 100 years and I don't need Rinnosuke ruining my plans.

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Well, there is a question if Rinnosuke would want another "doomsday device". He might just hide it so no one can abuse it's power.

He doesn't need it, he's already got one.

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But if he finds it then it sets the "everyone forgot" timer back to 0/100 years.

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@clashing heads: If versus mode in the fighting games tell us anything, it is that characters can clash heads with themselves. I'll have you know that it is Lily White, dressed in black, that clashes heads with Yuuka.

Rinnosuke will easily ruin your plans of having a Gameboy youkai. It needs to be something that looks like it belongs in Gensokyo, then he won't bother with it.

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Well, a second post, I should write something about Lily White.

Anyway, Phantasmagoria of Flower Viewing takes place in Spring, so we all know Lily White is busy declaring Spring.

This season is special and Lily White knows it, it is the 60th cycle, many flowers will bloom.
To celebrate this occasion, Lily White split herself, to dress in black.
Lily Black shall play with flower connoisseurs.
While, she will go forth and declare spring to Gensokyo.
This year, the coming of Spring will double.
Sadly, those that meet her believe her as another.
An invitation from the Scarlet Devil Mansion was sent to Lily White and Black.
This misunderstanding can easily be solved, if she would explain.
But why talk when she can bring both, she thought.
And thus, Lily White and Black arrive at the Scarlet Devil Mansion with none the wiser that she is, but one.

edited 17th Mar '12 8:21:21 PM by Starx

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Well, Yuuka is able to clone herself...

edited 18th Mar '12 12:26:59 AM by trepmaws

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