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The Liveblog of Time: The Shadow Rising
One of the things Jordan does really well is interrogate how information spreads, is warped and misinterpreted: Very rarely do people have an accurate understanding of what is going on.
Arilou
montagohalcyon
Sabbo
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Huh. I didn't remember this. Then again, most of my memory for Thom's role in things comes from later books.
Sabbo
The big "villain" roles are generally restricted to the Forsaken and the Dark One, but there are a few exceptions.
Sabbo
Hmm... I have completely forgot these things. What if it's true?
wheelreader
montagohalcyon
Sabbo
Foreshadowing!
Sabbo
Interesting. I didn't remember that scene here where he kills everything effortlessly.
Sabbo
Interestingly enough there are explanations, which are a big part of a later book.
Arilou
Amys is definitely better than Faile.
Sabbo
SchisselEL1
Sabbo
That is: Aes Sedai, Seafolk, Aiel. What is 4th? Two-Rivers? Andor? No, they are only ruled by womens, not dominated by.
wheelreader
Perhaps Tuathan?
SchisselEL1
Arilou
Stop exaggerating; it's not ten. *Not saying the actual number because it's potentially an unwanted spoiler*
Sabbo
It's not. Mat hasn't met his destined love interest yet. Egwene has.
montagohalcyon
I don't think Egwene has any (literally) destined love interest... at least at the moment (tSR, ch15). Rand has, and Perrin, and Nynaeve, atm. I think.
wheelreader
Honestly, I didn't like this book either. It gets better in the second half, particularly regarding Mat & Rand's parts of the plot. Egwene & Aviendha are also okay, while Perrin's plot was at least to me the weakest of the lot. Perrin having the weakest plot seems to be a recurring theme, really. (with the exception of the first two books)
Sabbo
Arilou
Sabbo
Long time no update?
Arilou
Indeed. Where'd you go?
Eric119
Still waiting updates. They are superb.
wheelreader
Sabbo
montagohalcyon
Arilou
Don't worry, he still gets a lot more character development after this.
Sabbo
Sabbo
Sabbo
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"And at long last, Rand acknowledges that he was born an Aiel." - there should be a name for this, perhaps a Deronda Moment...
SchisselEL1
Arilou
I would have waited on that, Arilou; Mat doesn't realize the difference for quite a while yet.
Sabbo
It's interesting about them exiling people who broke that "code"; if you exile enough people, they tend to gather together and form their own groups. (This isn't a cultural thing, it's a logistics thing. The early convicts of Australia are a good example of this, having been exiled from Britain in the late 18th century.)
Sabbo
The description of the pre-Breaking soldier's helmet is reminiscent of the Seanchan design. Which has no real relevance to anything plotwise, just a nice link to modern times.
montagohalcyon
I don't think the reader was supposed to like her by this point. Soon, but not yet.
Sabbo
montagohalcyon
Sabbo
Sabbo
This farmhouse stuff is relevant, although it may take a chapter or two for it to become clear.
Sabbo
Sadly, the dream world will be the only way people from different subplots communicate for a while yet. It is not, however, the only method of communication and connection the subplots will have in the series.
Sabbo
They communicate by normal methods too and that information is of course not accurate. It brings nice effect to the story.
wheelreader
I think I had the same feeling of pointlessness back when I was reading these chapters. It gets better of course, when the matter of when it gets better is up for interpretation.
Sabbo
Sabbo
It's interesting. I'm having a hard time counting how many times main characters won or lost battles in this series. Or neither. ("Neither" should be much easier to count, however)
Sabbo
Well, at least you're on your way there. I wonder if you'll start calling her Faile once Perrin does.
Sabbo
From hereon, books will practically never end with all current subplots being resolved, but rather leaving at least two hanging.
Sabbo
That was NOT Liandrin, fyi.
montagohalcyon
You'll have lots of time honing your hatred of Elaida in the upcoming books. :)
nightwyrm_zero
I'm not sure I would have called that chapter a "climax" of any sort. The climax of this subplot is a long time coming.
Sabbo
Rand's biggest issues later will not be his sheer strength or skill, but rather something a bit more understandable for somebody of his upbringing.
Sabbo
This book has so many chapters...
Sabbo
Book, hah, think about the entire SERIES!
Arilou
Sabbo
Domon's seal was taken from him by Turak in book 2. And it was broken at the end of that book.
Eric119
Yes, you will find out about how the tattoos were done.
Sabbo
From this book onward, you will be following multiple plot threads the entire time. Including minor plot threads and subthreads, there are times when you'll be following more than ten at a time. Thankfully, four main threads will generally be the limit in that regard. (Rand, Mat, Perrin, and the girls and/or Aes Sedai)
Sabbo
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