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Mostly Robin Hood types

This trope has been Nuked
Proposed By:
scarletfire12492 on Mar 14th 2018 at 4:36:22 AM
Last Edited By:
scarletfire12492 on Apr 10th 2018 at 7:32:47 PM
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Page Type: trope

Because Order Is Not Good, this means sometimes its Chaotic Good vs. Lawful Evil. In these cases, the protagonists are on the Chaotic side of the spectrum. In order to qualify for this trope, chaos must be a major part of the protagonists, and they must oppose an order (Such as an Evil Empire).

Examples:

Live-Action TV

  • Explored in Nowhere Boys. For the first two seasons, an antagonistic force is the Restoring Demon, obsessed with maintaining order. Since the boys are inadvertently opposing the order this in effect makes them the chaos despite being the heroes.

Tabletop Games

  • Warhammer 40K: Chaos became the lesser of two evils when the Necrons were first introduced, as Chaos at least needs life to survive (the Chaos gods are the accumulated embodiment of sentient emotion), whereas the Necron endgoal was the annihilation of life down to the last basterium throughout the universe. This has changed in recent editions where the Necrons are no longer entirely murderbots.

Video Games

  • Zamorak, the god of chaos in RuneScape, is usually viewed as a god of evil throughout Gielinor. However, his ultimate intent is to make humanity stronger by using chaos as a catalyst for change and growth in a stagnant, orderly society - although it doesn't make him any less power-hungry.

Open to examples

Feedback: 37 replies

Mar 14th 2018 at 9:17:40 AM

We need a better laconic, or else this will get nuked.

Mar 14th 2018 at 9:50:12 AM

And anarchists don't advocate chaos.

Mar 14th 2018 at 10:43:27 AM

  • Zamorak, the god of chaos in Runescape, is usually viewed as a god of evil throughout Gielinor. However, his ultimate intent is to make humanity stronger by using chaos as a catalyst for change and growth in a stagnant, orderly society - although it doesn't make him any less power-hungry.

Mar 14th 2018 at 11:34:53 AM

Any suggestions for Laconic and Examples then?

Mar 14th 2018 at 12:48:23 PM

Warhammer 40 K: Chaos became the lesser of two evils when the Necrons were first introduced, as Chaos at least needs life to survive (the Chaos gods are the accumulated embodiment of sentient emotion), whereas the Necron endgoal was the annihilation of life down to the last basterium throughout the universe. This has changed in recent editions where the Necrons are no longer entirely murderbots.

Mar 14th 2018 at 1:54:07 PM

Hold on. If you want the draft to have a chance, then you need to learn a bit about text formatting. Here is a page detailing what we expect.

I'll abstain from throwing in a hat or bomb for right now.

Mar 14th 2018 at 2:24:29 PM

  • Explored in Nowhere Boys. For the first two seasons, an antagonistic force is the Restoring Demon, obsessed with maintaining order. Since the boys are inadvertently opposing the order this in effect makes them the chaos despite being the heroes.

Mar 15th 2018 at 1:08:32 AM

  • Capitalized the title.
  • Examples section
    • Added a line separating the Description and Examples section.
    • Added media section titles as per Media Categories.
    • Added asterisks at the beginning of examples to indent them.
    • Namespaced work names. Warning: failing to do this this can result in being suspended from editing.
    • Italicized work names as per How To Write An Example - Emphasis For Work Names.
    • Blue Linked work names.
    • Alphabetized media sections.

Mar 15th 2018 at 2:32:47 AM

This is just going to fit under Order Versus Chaos, many examples of which feature Chaotic Good versus Lawful Evil as the main conflict, or good and evil characters on both sides. See also all the different character types listed under Chaotic Good. Plus, as the last sentences suggest, this is going to end up in flamey The Great Character Alignment Debate incidents over whether particular characters or groups of people are actually Chaotic or not.

Mar 15th 2018 at 2:15:33 PM

Mar 16th 2018 at 2:04:12 AM

The OP scarletfire12492 has overwritten my changes. Since changing it back would constitute an Edit War, I'm going to leave it in its current improper state.

Mar 16th 2018 at 4:30:35 AM

Please overwrite it. I'm okay with more experienced Tropers editing my work, or their work.

Mar 20th 2018 at 6:41:46 AM

Never mind, but what did I do wrong, and how can I fix it?

Apr 2nd 2018 at 1:26:06 PM

^ I agree. Tossing another bomb on.

Apr 2nd 2018 at 4:08:51 PM

Alignments were all it took, then Law is not Good would not exist as a trope.

Apr 2nd 2018 at 5:11:50 PM

I think I know another problem with this: Order Is Not Good describes a major force, not a single person, of Order as not good. This draft, meanwhile, doesn't say that; if this is meant to be that trope's opposite, then the definition should be "a major force of Chaos that is not evil".

I think Persona games have this, but I don't know those games enough.

Apr 3rd 2018 at 7:13:10 AM

Thank you for the advice. Added it in

Apr 3rd 2018 at 12:27:34 PM

This is Chaotic Good. Why not expound on that?

Apr 3rd 2018 at 4:51:05 PM

I suggest making a new draft just so the Arivne guy can come to help.

Apr 3rd 2018 at 5:41:16 PM

I restored his correct formatting, so hopefully Arivne will come back.

Apr 3rd 2018 at 6:59:23 PM

^ the other reason is that you can be more comfortable with no bombs. (and with better way of putting the idea across, of course)

Apr 4th 2018 at 4:31:44 AM

Alrighty then, new draft coming up

Apr 4th 2018 at 5:12:02 AM

So I obviously don't know how.

Apr 4th 2018 at 7:00:26 PM

Does anyone else know how?

Apr 4th 2018 at 10:43:07 PM

^ Copy and paste the draft's contents, then press the "create new TLP" button to make the new one?

Apr 5th 2018 at 4:20:16 AM

Tried that, but thank you.

Apr 5th 2018 at 4:21:25 AM

However, if anyone wants to help, a few hats to help balance out the nine bombs would be nice. Might attract other people.

Apr 5th 2018 at 7:00:01 AM

And now I sound like a desperate youtuber

Apr 5th 2018 at 6:52:36 PM

Any more advice or examples?

Apr 10th 2018 at 7:32:43 PM

|~| Hello darkness my old friend... |~| ` ` ` `

Apr 10th 2018 at 7:32:47 PM

|~| Hello darkness my old friend... |~| ` ` ` `

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