Line #42 YMMV/DrHorriblesSingAlongBlog


1	* {{Adorkable}}: Billy is a total dork and Penny is almost messianically good, so when they finally start talking it's the epitome of awkward sweetness. Awkward because we know that Billy is a villain and that Penny probably wouldn't like that.
2	* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
3	** There's a large camp of people who believe Dr. Horrible and Billy are two separate people in one body, even though [[{{Fanon}} this was never revealed in the show]].
4	** Also, whether it's a multiple personality or not, is Billy a genuine shy nice guy, or [[DoggedNiceGuy a passive-aggressive Nice Guy]] (TM) who, while less openly selfish in his pursuits of relationships than Captain Hammer, is [[EntitledToHaveYou not really any more interested in Penny as a person]]? It's a good story either way, but a very different story.
5	** Is Billy really [[LoveAtFirstSight in love with Penny]], or just InLoveWithLove?
6	** Penny; on the one hand, she dates a guy who's not very subtle about what a giant {{Jerkass}} he is because he's famous and who can help her with her personal goals, she's possibly emotionally cheating on said {{Jerkass}} with Billy, and she quite possibly uses [[spoiler: her last words]] just to twist the knife in someone's gut. The view of her as being full of IncorruptiblePurePureness is more Billy's projection, and looking at what she actually does shows her as flawed and shallow like everyone else in the story.
7	*** On the other hand, should she really be able to see Hammer's jerkiness? He's fairly low-key around her, until the press conference, where she sees it and doesn't like it a bit. Is she just using Hammer to achieve her own personal goal? Since her goal is to help the homeless, is the manipulation truly unjustified?
8	** Are all the personalities of the characters due to Billy (the POV character) being an UnreliableNarrator? If you go by actions, Captain Hammer comes across as heroic DoggedNiceGuy while Billy is a [[VillainousCrush villainous]] StalkerWithACrush. Penny meanwhile, hints at more depths with a DarkAndTroubledPast than IncorruptiblePurePureness she usually is. It's possible that Billy is justifying himself, demonizing Captain Hammer and putting Penny on a pedestal.
9	** There's at least one camp that argues that Captain Hammer is a much better boyfriend than Billy: neither of them are ''good'', to be sure, but Captain Hammer at least gives her a level of respect and attention which Billy doesn't. This is largely derived from the fact that, when Penny suggests the homeless shelter to Billy, he dismisses the idea and says that she's not focusing on the ''real'' problems, suggesting a lack of interest in what Penny actually wants, and that Billy had been stalking her and his songs profess to giving her what ''he'' thinks she wants. Meanwhile Hammer might be obnoxious and arrogant, and does brag that he's going to sleep with Penny just to upset Billy, but he does seem to genuinely care about Penny's interests.
10	* AlternativeJokeInterpretation: Captain Hammer's line that he might sleep with the same girl twice in "So They Say" could either refer to [[LousyLoversAreLosers every woman he's slept with leaving him due to being unsatisfied]] or him being shallow enough to dump women the instant after he's gotten into their pants.
11	* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Of the "good movie, terrible title" variety. It's a musical about a wannabe MadScientist who aspires to join an Villain association. And the thing is mostly narrated via the main character's video blogs. Note that at the time of release, the term "blog" had a particular set of connotations that left many people even more wary of the concept. Early on a lot of potential fans watched it solely because the title "Sing-Along Blog" sounded bad. Fortunately, positive word of mouth eventually overcame the audience-alienating nature of the title.
12	* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Difficult to pick, as it's a chock-full-of-SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome ''musical''!
13	* BrokenBase: One of the biggest cases in the fandom: is Penny's eventual fate a parody of the DisposableWoman, or is it [[IndecisiveParody just winking at the audience while indulging in it?]] Pretty much everyone agrees on there being an intent to parody, so the question is really whether Penny is actually characterized enough to defy her plot-designated status as a prop to be killed off for angst--some fans say yes, and others say no.
14	* DesignatedVillain: Weirdly, Captain Hammer ends up being this, despite being treated as an in-universe DesignatedHero. He's a jerk, yes, but he actually listens to Penny, cares about her interests, and tries to do things for her, which Billy rather clearly ''doesn't'' do. He's pointedly mean to Billy, but Billy is... you know, a supervillain, who has rather evil motives even if he is {{Adorkable}}. He delivers a rather condescending song at the opening of a homeless shelter, but he's the one who opened the homeless shelter in the first place, and he does seem to be sincere in his understanding that it's a good thing to do, if nothing else. The bad that he does in the story is generally outweighed heavily by the good. His biggest failure as a hero is, oddly, probably that he's more interested in using excessive force against a villain he could easily restrain, rather than, ya know, actually arresting him.
15	* DracoInLeatherPants: The {{Fangirl}}s/[[{{Fanboy}} boys]] give this treatment to both Captain Hammer and Dr. Horrible.
16	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
17	** A literal case here with the Thoroughbred of Sin himself, Bad Horse; despite only featuring in two short songs and having a brief physical cameo at the end, just about everyone loves Bad Horse. He's a ''[[EvilGenius supervillain]] [[TheMafia Godfather]] [[AnimalSuperheroes horse]]'' who delivers orders via ''[[MundaneMadeAwesome cowboy-themed musical telegram]]'', and has the amazing ability to sign phone calls.
18	** Despite only appearing in a contest entry video, Tur-Mohel quickly became a standout, as did Mr. Terrible for his VillainSong.
19	* FandomSpecificPlot: Many fanfics in the fandom tend to fall into one of two categories: One where Penny never dies at all, and another where she dies but Dr. Horrible uses his new resources to bring her back to life, with varying levels of success.
20	* FashionVictimVillain: Apparently, silly costumes are a requirement for the Evil League of Evil.
21	* FauxSymbolism: Dr. Horrible's overlarge armchair in which he plots [[TakeOverTheWorld world domination]]. Either he feels inadequate or it's just for comedic effect. See the {{Jossed}} entry in Trivia -- that chair just happened to be in the house where they were filming.
22	* HarsherInHindsight:
23	** The fan reaction to Loki in Whedon's film of ''Film/{{The Avengers\|2012}}'' is eerily similar to how the public react to Dr. Horrible in the ending, especially considering that they had the same motives (taking over the world in an effort to make it a better place) -- Loki kills hundreds of people, but he's still worshipped as a villain, just like Dr. Horrible was, complete with obsessed fangirls.
24	** Billy/Dr. Horrible's character arc can easily be interpreted in hindsight as metaphorical for the radicalization of young men into various anti-feminist/toxic masculinist ideologies, particularly the incel movement, at a time when they were barely a blip on the cultural radar. Billy starts out as [[GiveGeeksAChance a dweebish, nerdy man]] who [[DoggedNiceGuy pines after Penny]], yet she winds up instead attracted to Captain Hammer, a paragon of traditional masculinity who earns Billy's resentment for it -- not unlike many self-proclaimed incels who blame "Chads", their generalized term for men (particularly handsome, athletic, and successful men, the term meant to evoke high school {{Jerk Jock}}s) who are more successful with women than they are, for their perpetual datelessness. [[spoiler:His journey to win Penny's affection winds up getting her killed, the moment at which his slide into supervillainy and transformation into Dr. Horrible is complete, reflective of various self-proclaimed incels who have gone on killing sprees.]]
25	* HilariousInHindsight:
26	** The line "Let's all be our best" from "So They Say" is now quite reminiscent of [[{{Series/Dollhouse}} another Whedon work.]]
27	** In this short, Felicia Day is the love interest of a supervillain. A few years later she [[{{Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000}} became a supervillain herself]].
28	** Simon Helberg [[Series/TheBigBangTheory plays the friend of a nerdy scientist with a love interest named Penny.]]
29	* HypeBacklash: There are some that feel that the short -- which is low-budget and only 45 minutes long -- doesn't really live up to the massive praise heaped upon it by its fans.
30	* IronWoobie: Dr. Horrible has taken a ridiculous amount of abuse, and he doesn't remotely look like it. Hammer threw a ''car'' at his friggin' ''head''!
31	* JerkassWoobie: But at the same time, Dr. Horrible is a CardCarryingVillain.
32	* MemeticMutation:
33	** "The Hammer is my penis."
34	** "ShinyNewAustralia".
35	* MisaimedFandom:
36	** Some people, as highlighted in [[http://karjack.livejournal.com/656327.html?format=light this essay]], are arguing that a large part of the audience seems to have missed the point especially in the way it tackled the idea of DisposableWoman and of Billy as a [[DoggedNiceGuy Nice Guy]]. Billy's complete transformation into the Dr. Horrible persona is clearly and unambiguously portrayed as a tragedy; not only because of the loss of Penny, but because it costs him the very humanity that his friend associates with. Some people are still going to prefer the WellIntentionedExtremist Dr. Horrible over the nebbish StalkerWithACrush Billy.
37	** Some [=YouTube=] comments imply that a few people wish they could deal with their bullies the way that Billy goes on to do. This is slightly worrying, to say the least.
38	* MoralEventHorizon:
39	** Captain Hammer dating and sleeping with Penny ''just'' because he knows it'll hurt Billy[=/=]Dr. Horrible. He might be a superhero, but this moment makes it clear he's not in it because he's a good person. This is ultimately what causes Billy to plot to kill him -- not the countless times Hammer's foiled his crimes and beaten him up.
40	** While Horrible views it as... horrible, having sex with a fellow consenting adult and your girlfriend isn't really bad by any reasonable moral standard, [[VillainyFreeVillain even if Hammer is a jerk]]. Hammer's ''real'' MEH moment came near the end, when he outright tried to execute a downed and defenseless Dr. Horrible with his own death ray while the latter was begging for mercy. Supervillain or no, that's outright murder by any legal definition. He's only prevented from doing so by the death ray's malfunction... but that just means he (accidentally) kills ''Penny'' instead.
41	* NightmareFuel: The comic ''Best Friends Forever'' has Billy, needing to wake up from a dream, demand a vision of Penny ask why he killed her while gorily melting into a skeleton, with no in-between panel to soften it. It's implied this has happened many times before, as Penny doesn't like it but it's the only way to wake him for sure.
42	* RetroactiveRecognition: Moist is [[Series/TheBigBangTheory Howard Wolowitz]].
43	* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: A lot of parents seem to think that because it is a musical, the show is perfectly fine for small children. Considering that it's centered around a villain's StartOfDarkness and it sports lyrics such as "It's a brand new day, and the sun is high / All the birds are singing that you're gonna die"...yeah. A lot of it probably goes over the kiddies' heads anyway (one would hope), but still...
44	** Felicia Day mentions, in one of the commentaries, a fan who wrote to tell her "my nine-year-old daughter loved you in this...until Act 3."
45	* TheWoobie: Not only does Dr. Horrible get roughed up on a regular basis but takes it in stride ("... honestly, I'll live."), he suffers the emotional equivalent of a punch to the gut several times. "Penny's Song" establishes Penny as this to some extent, although she's far too optimistic to let it stick.

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