Line #4 YMMV/RedHood


1	* BaseBreakingCharacter: One of the biggest in Batman media, thanks to his ReplacementScrappy status to Dick Grayson, and the fact that he was deliberately written as insufferable by writers have him gain this status to the readers. Even after his resurrection, his inconsistent portrayals make fans wish that he was never brought back or at least stick to Winnick's interpretation. This has gotten worse ever since the New 52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept but [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot finds that vast majority of his stories to just be poorly written]].
2	* BrokenBase:
3	** Grant Morrison's direction for Jason Todd in ''[[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison Batman and Robin]]'' can be divisive. Some, particular newer readers who are familiar with Jason mostly through ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', don't like that he's a villain. Many others, however, consider it to be a unique and fresh direction that cleverly consolidates all of Jason's history into a single character arc, and makes him an interesting foil to Dick Grayson. A prolonged period of [[SeasonalRot poor-to-mediocre Jason Todd stories]] has left several fans wishing that Morrison's direction was followed up on.
4	** Between readers who prefer Scott Lobdell's version of Red Hood and those that prefer Jason under the pen of Morrison, Zdarsky or anyone other than Scott Lobdell. Since ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' and ''ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal'' ran for almost a cumulative decade, there are many fans who were introduced to the character through these runs and are dismissive of any other interpretation of the character that stray too far from it. Meanwhile, fans of other writers writing Red Hood stories tend to be dismissive of Lobdell's version because of his writing style and questionable choices in characterization.
5	** One thing of much content is appearent AdaptationalWimp and AdaptationalDumbass Jason has received since rejoining the Batfamily. Pre-New52 Red Hood was a dangerous and competent antagonist that gave a genuine challenge to the batfamily. Meanwhile his post-New52 characterization has largely relegated him to be a tagalong for the other bat-characters, as he lacks any consistent solos that would allow him to be a more independent character.
6	* CantUnHearIt: Jensen Ackles is the ''definitive'' voice of Red Hood, thanks to his portrayal of him at ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' to the point that fans are begging for him to be cast in future works. An alternate choice is Creator/TroyBaker, thanks to ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight''.
7	* CargoShip: Jason and crowbar. It’s become a RunningGag that Jason would always get beaten with a crowbar or use the crowbar against someone else. Not to mention he uses one as his main weapon in ''Outlaw''.
8	* DracoInLeatherPants: Jason has brutally killed criminals and yet he had garnered a lot of fans willing to overlook his past transgressions and even justifying his actions as if he is only killing criminals who deserve it. Never mind that he has threatened to bomb innocents, attempted to kill Bruce, Dick, Tim, and Damian many times, and even tried to replace Bruce as Gun-toting Batman in [[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison Battle for the cowl]]. ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' confirms he ''still'' tried to kill Bruce, Dick, and Tim at different points in the past; he's shown to be EasilyForgiven by them.
9	* FandomRivalry: A common occurence among Batfamily fans, especially among fans of individual Robins. Red Hood fans, in particular, have rivalries with Nightwing and Damian Wayne fans, even going as far as to review bomb their solo ongoings on review sites such as Comic Book Roundup.
10	* FanNickname:
11	** Fandom loves calling him Jaybird, and later became canon in ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''.
12	** [=GunBats=] for his psychopathic gun-wielding Batman phase.
13	** [[CombatTentacles TentaTodd]] due to the weird VoluntaryShapeshifting abilities he had during ''Nightwing: One Year Later''.
14	* FanPreferredCouple:
15	** Jason/Roy became this in the New 52 due to Jason supplanting Dick as Roy's best friend and Roy and Kori's case of PlatonicWritingRomanticReading in ''Red Hood and the Outlaws''. They even co-starred in a comic together, called ''Red Hood/Arsenal'', which amped up the HomoeroticSubtext full-force.
16	** Jason/Artemis during the Rebirth run. Most fans prefer to ship Artemis with women, and Jason has a FriendsWithBenefits relationship with Isabela so the fact that this pairing managed to build a solid following is rather surprising. While they did have some ship tease in canon, it was ultimately sunk when they agree to be JustFriends.
17	* FanonDiscontinuity: Despite ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'' being Jason's longest-running title, most fans are happy to mentally excise it from continuity due to sloppy storytelling, as well as the fast and loose characterization with all characters involved.
18	* FashionVictimVillain: In his AntiVillain days in ''Grant Morrison's Batman'', his "superhero" costume gets derided by fans. It's understandable why [[https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/142843/4593976-9444019049-11338.jpg as he looks like a walking pill medicine]].
19	* ItWasHisSled: Jason dying and becoming the second Red Hood is pretty well known to all hardcore and casual comic fans. The movie ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood'' barely kept this a secret for long once it came out.
20	* JerkassWoobie: Out of all the Robins, he has it the worst considering that he grew up on the streets, had his foster mother (drugs), his father (killed by Two-Face/[[ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws Penguin]]), his real mother (Joker), and his adopted father (Batman, really lost in time but he didn't know that) all die on him, had his real mother betray him to the Joker when he tried to help her, was brutally beaten and then blown up by the Joker, was resurrected without his memories and forced to dig his way out of his grave and live on the streets, was dunked in a Lazarus Pit to regain his memories, found out that his adopted father had failed to avenge his death, was "betrayed" again when Batman attacked him to stop him from killing the Joker.
21	* LauncherOfAThousandShips: While not to the extent of Dick Grayson, his EstrogenBrigade means that Jason has quite a number of ships going for him.
22	* MemeticMutation: "Red Hood fans hate good writing."[[labelnote:Explanation]]While Chip Zdarsky's ''Batman Urban Legends'' arc for ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier is widely praised, especially in comparison to [[AudienceAlienatingEra Scott Lobdell's mostly derided tenure on]] ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', some Lobell loyalists have vocally disparaged Zdarsky on Twitter, Comic Book Roundup, and Comic Book Resources forums for writing Jason as flawed and allegedly less capable in combat. This led to other DC fans [[https://i.imgflip.com/5hokpw.jpg mocking]] them and [[https://i.redd.it/med9fo7rsw371.jpg making]] [[https://i.imgur.com/rigsHfj.jpeg memes]] about them hating otherwise acclaimed works.[[/labelnote]]
23	** Fans from Reddit has started to describing Jason as the family jobber, on account of how Jason's skills have been severely diminished since TheNew 52.
24	* MisaimedFandom: Like ComicBook/ThePunisher, there is a sizeable section of the fandom who fails to realize that Jason's inclination towards killing is a tragic outcome of terrible things he's suffered in his life and that his lethal methods often fail to stop crime, sometimes even escalating them. Rather, they just see him as the reason why Batman would be "cooler" if he killed people.
25	* MyRealDaddy: Although Jason Todd was created by Gerry Conway, Judd Winick set his status quo as the Red Hood and defined his character for the new millennium, including adaptations.
26	* NeverLiveItDown: His death at the hands of ComicBook/TheJoker to all comic fans and [[OnceDoneNeverForgotten even by other characters]]. He's got his general impulsive {{Jerkass}} demeanor that made him a solid [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] and is the very reason why he was killed.
27	* PeripheryDemographic: He has a large female fanbase thanks to being a DarkerAndEdgier PrettyBoy with daddy issues (and many others) and was voiced by Creator/JensenAckles in his animated movie. Website/{{Tumblr}} apparently loves him.
28	* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: After years of [[KilledOffForReal being dead]], his return as the Red Hood returned him to relevancy and gained him new fans. He's been rotating in and out of this and BaseBreakingCharacter after his resurrection since writers tend to write him differently and see what sticks.
29	* RonTheDeathEater:
30	** Batman often receives this treatment from the fanbase due to the strict code of morality that he imposes on Jason and his lack of trust. Sometimes, the writers [[RunningTheAsylum get into it as well]] when writing from Jason's point of view, portraying Batman as a selfish {{Jerkass}}. Though at times, this gets {{Anvilicious}} to the point where Batman ends up coming off as UnintentionallySympathetic instead, thanks to Jason's status as a KarmaHoudini.
31	** Jason is also occasionally on the receiving end of this from writers and fans who would downplay his sympathetic qualities to make him far worse than he actually is (Grant Morrisson being a pretty well-known example). For the longest time, Jason as Robin was depicted as being more of a {{Jerkass}} than he actually was in order to make it seem like he was never worthy of being a Robin.
32	* TheScrappy: Before his resurrection in ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood Under The Red Hood]]'', Post-Crisis Jason Todd was hated by quite a few readers to the point that fans eventually voted for him [[ComicBook/ADeathInTheFamily to be killed by the Joker]]. While an almost equal number of people voted to spare him (it is rumored that at least three hundred of the votes were from the same caller), a lot of people thought that the vote was for the first Robin, Dick Grayson, who was excessively popular amongst a lot of fans, and that's not a rumor.
33	* SelfFanservice: Fan artists ''love'' to draw him with a streak in his hair despite it only appearing in a few arcs and having been forgotten in the New 52 era.
34	** Editorial has acknowledged the fan preferences in recent years in a pretty curious way, while in the main canon Jason is still completely black-haired, his appearances in comics outside of the main canon tend to depict him with the stripe.
35	* SignatureSeriesArc: He has two: ''A Death in the Family'', which tells the story of his tragic death, and ''Under The Red Hood'' for re-inventing him as a villain/anti-hero. Both stories are used as the main templates for adaptations and spinoffs.
36	* {{Squick}}: Talia kissing Jason and having sex with him in ''Lost Days'' is this to a lot of readers considering the age gap, the parent-child dynamic that both share, the fact that Bruce is Jason's adopted father, and who fans consider being Talia's love interest.
37	* WTHCostumingDepartment: The costume designed by Peter Woods for the Outlaw period has been widely reviled by the fans due to the fact of dropping the iconic red helmet and leather jacket and replacing it with a sleeveless red hoodie and a combination of a domino mask and red muzzle. As soon as the costume was revealed, comparisons with [[Franchise/MortalKombat Scorpion/Sub-Zero]] started dropping everywhere. Strangely, while DC was quick to return Jason to his New 52 costume after people complained about the costume used in ''ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal'', the Woods costume has been used for two years and counting, with no sign of being changed anytime soon. To further confuse things up, stories set outside the main continuity (bar ''ComicBook/BatmanThreeJokers'', that uses a costume specially designed for it) always depict Jason in his Rebirth costume.

Context YMMV / RedHood