Line #24 YMMV/BladeII


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3	* AssPull:
4	** Even though the first film made it clear that Whistler shot himself to avoid becoming a vampire (which should have killed him even if he had already turned into a vampire), in this one he's revealed to have survived with little to no explanation.
5	** Many fans feel there's no appropriate context or {{Foreshadowing}} for [[spoiler:Scud being TheMole.]]
6	* BaseBreakingCharacter: The movie's fans are quite split on what to make of Scud. On the one hand, there are plenty of fans who consider him a poorly-written PluckyComicRelief character incorporated as [[KidAppealCharacter a forced attempt at trying to appeal to teenagers]] by acting as [[TotallyRadical stereotypically "cool and hip" as possible]] (i.e. talks trash, listens to rap music, calls the eponymous anti-hero 'B,' and constantly has a joint in his mouth.) Others enjoy him if for no other reason than to see an early-in-his-career Creator/NormanReedus [[LargeHam ham it up like nobody's business]]. [[spoiler: Even the reveal that he's TheMole has split the fanbase; some hate him for being a ''very'' incompetent villain whose betrayal [[AssPull came out of nowhere]], while others love his BloodyHilarious and [[PayEvilUntoEvil well-deserved]] death scene too much to care.]]
7	* CompleteMonster: [[EvilutionaryBiologist Eli Damaskinos]] is the [[VampireMonarch Overlord of the Vampire Nation]], and the true villain behind the Reaper outbreak. A believer in the pureblood rhetoric of vampires, Damaskinos schemes to create [[MasterRace an entirely new race of vampires]] to overthrow and slaughter humanity and vamprekind alike, with Damaskinos as the progenitor of the new species. In his quest for this, Damaskinos oversees routine mass murder of humans to harvest their bloods in such quantities as to fill factory reservoirs, and Damaskinos personally [[BloodBath bathes in large pools of his victims' blood]]. Willing to forego all semblance of empathy or humanity to achieve his desires, [[AbusiveParents Damaskinos]] experimented on his own son Jared Nomak to turn him into a Reaper before targeting him for death, and Damaskinos later sends his daughter Nyssa and her elite squadron to die at Nomak's hands, uncaring of the swathes of life lost in the process so long as he can raise an entire brood of vampire children to be experimented upon.
8	* EnsembleDarkhorse:
9	** Creator/DonnieYen as Snowman, due to [[GratuitousNinja being a ninja]] and, well, to being Donnie Yen.
10	** Jared Nomak for a cool design, being the lead Reaper, and being played by Luke Goss.
11	* EvenBetterSequel: A large percentage of the ''Blade'' fanbase finds the sequel to be even better than the first one, appreciating its more stylized visuals, added humor and colorful cast of characters over the more grim and realistic original. Even those who don't find it superior to the original typically believe it is still a very worthy sequel.
12	* FanPreferredCutContent: In the script, Bloodpack member Verlaine is the vengeful twin sister of Raquel, who Blade kills at the beginning of the first movie. This was scrapped when the actress couldn't reprise the role, but some fans wish that they'd still been sisters (just not twins), and the original TeethClenchedTeamwork dynamics preserved there.
13	* FanonDiscontinuity: The death of [[spoiler:Nyssa, an AntiVillain who has some good UST with Blade]], is often ignored by fan fiction writers.
14	* FightSceneFailure: Although the film generally showcases impeccable choreography, the mook Blade back-kicks during the showdown against Reinhardt is sent flying away in stilted, painfully obvious WireFu action, which contrasts with the mostly wireless rest of the fights.
15	* FranchiseOriginalSin: A few of the things that fans complained about in ''Film/BladeTrinity'', like Blade being given a new sidekick and working with an entire team, got their start here. These new characters, however, didn't steal the spotlight from Blade, and Whistler at least remained an important character. The third film turned the new arrivals into a SpotlightStealingSquad and abruptly killed off Whistler, souring things for lots of fans.
16	* HarsherInHindsight:
17	** Scud offers Blade a joint, which he declines. Creator/WesleySnipes would later cause problems on the shoot of ''Film/BladeTrinity'' by, amongst other things, staying in his trailer smoking weed.
18	** One of the DVD commentaries features Snipes and David S. Goyer. Hearing them joking around is sad knowing that they'd later fall out while making ''Blade Trinity''.
19	* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoment:
20	** When the unsentimental hard-ass Whistler desperately cries to a dying Blade ''"Don't you give up on me, boy! You didn't give up on me, and I'm not gonna give up on you!"'' you know that even he is capable of love.
21	** Nyssa's death, the only real sympathetic vampire in the series, she also makes the audience think about how pureblood vampires don't have a choice. It's obvious she and Blade have a thing, and she ends up dying. SPECTACULARLY.
22	* HilariousInHindsight:
23	** Scud is often seen wearing a [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} B.P.R.D shirt]]. Guillermo Del Toro would go straight from this movie to an adaptation of Hellboy.
24	** Luke Goss would go on portraying another nonhuman AntiVillain with a FreudianExcuse, [[spoiler:eventually SelfMadeOrphan]], in yet another [[Film/HellboyIITheGoldenArmy second movie]] directed by Creator/GuillermoDelToro.
25	* MagnificentBastard: [[ImplacableMan Prince Jared Nomak]] is the original heir to the empire of vampire Overlord Eli Damaskinos. After being experimented on by Damaskinos, Nomak becomes the [[MonsterProgenitor progenitor]] of the Reaper strain, feral mutant vampires who feed on their civilized kin. Making his presence known after [[MuggingTheMonster luring several vampires into a trap]], Nomak leads his Reapers to attack other vampires, using the distraction to catch his sister Nyssa. Seeing the [[{{Dhampyr}} Daywalker]] Blade as a natural ally, Nomak sincerely tries to persuade him to join forces, while also sparing the life of Blade's mentor Whistler to reveal the truth about the Reapers' origins. Finally confronting and killing his [[ArchnemesisDad monstrous father]], Nomak also feeds on Nyssa at her behest and calmly accepts his own death at Blade's hands, thankful that his pain is over.
26	* MoralEventHorizon: Bad enough that Damaskinos actually created the Reaper virus, but the fact that he used his own son as patient zero really sends him over the line.
27	* {{Narm}}: The remark Reinhardt makes to Blade, "Can you blush?", was intended to be a racial slur, since Blade is black and it was based on a personal experience from Wesley Snipes.[[note]]Yes, they can. It's only less noticeable, sometimes not at all, but the physiological reaction still happens.[[/note]] The character was originally envisioned as a racist skinhead, which didn't come across in the final film, thus making the line really random for some viewers.
28	* NarmCharm: As mentioned below in SpecialEffectsFailure, near the end of the fight between Blade Nyssa and Akkad, the final exchanges are shot from the side against bright floodlights with (pretty obvious) CGI doubles. It's called out on the commentary for looking like "Franchise/MortalKombat", but if you're a fan of 2D fighting games like that, it can look like a deliberate and pretty well-made ShoutOut.
29	* SignatureScene: The AlienAutopsy of the Reaper body is generally cited as the coolest scene of the film. A gorgeously crafted prop that the characters examine in detail. In one bit they drop a tiny bit of blood into the exposed chest and everything started pulsing again as though it was coming back to life.
30	* RetroactiveRecognition: Scud is played by Creator/NormanReedus. If you didn't recognize him at the time from ''Film/TheBoondockSaints'', you probably did after he started playing Daryl Dixon in ''Series/{{The Walking Dead\|2010}}''.
31	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
32	** The Blood Pack was created to hunt and kill Blade, but the only time we see them, they have to team up with Blade against the Reavers. An entire movie featuring Blade being hunted instead of being the hunter would have been an interesting plot.
33	** It's also a shame that Jared and Nyssa never really get to talk to each other except at the end, given that [[spoiler: they're siblings.]]
34	* SpecialEffectsFailure: While the maw effects don't look too bad, some of the [=SFX=] haven't aged too well, such as the dust effects on some vampire (particularly in the beginning when a camera focus on one Nomak kills). Some CGI was dodgy even at the time of the film's release, such as the shot of Blade fighting Nyssa against the "God lights," which the director lambasts in his commentary track.
35	* TooCoolToLive: Snowman, just like every other American movie role Creator/DonnieYen has had.
36	* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: When the Reaper's maw is revealed for the first time in all its horrific glory it looks amazing. Even better, there's a Reaper autopsy later, with the maw faithfully reproduced ''physically'', in horrifically gooey detail.
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